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Your Welcome for the link, but answer this to what did servive in the Ice Age, how did that servived evole or fourm to what we have or what we are today? cause im sorry a sea shell aint happinging. =\

Okay, so the link that's there shows that some sea life survived.

This one should do a better job:

This Ice Age 'forced' evolution of humanoids into homo erectus. This evolutionary process took millions of years and the early humans came into being about two and half million years ago in Africa. Homo erectus prospered in Africa, Europe and Asia until about 340,000 years ago when a cosmological event, the Geminga supernova, triggered another major ice age that lasted about 10,000 years. During this Ice Age, Neanderthals appeared and began to replace homo erectus.

The early humans inhabited the Korean peninsula: recently, 300,000-year old human fossils were discovered in a lava bed in the Whang-hae Province of Korea. A DNA test of the fossils showed the bones were of a woman, a teenager, and a toddler. It is probable that they were caught in a volcanic eruption. It is not clear if these victims were homo erectus or Neanderthals.

The next Ice Age began about 160,000 years ago and lasted about 30,000 years. Europe was under glaciation. unfit for human habitation at the time and the migration of the humans went from Africa to Asia through the Near East. The glaciations shrank and expanded numerous times over the millennia. In the current epoch, the glaciation expanded during 45,000-75,000 years ago, and during this period, the sea level dropped sharply, so much so that Asia and America got connected, allowing animals and humans to migrate from Asia to America.

About 70,000 years ago, the Toba volcano in Sumatra blew up and ushered in the current Ice Age, the Wurm Glaciation. By about 35,000 years ago, much of Europe became encased in ice and a new breed of humans - homo sapiens sapiens evolved to survive in the harsh environment. This new breed was more intelligent and used tools to compensate for their modest physique. They replaced their distant kin Neanderthals in Africa, the Near East and Northern Asia. The migration occurred in other directions as well: the Asian tribes migrated into Europe, Middle East, and Australia. As the glaciations receded, the sea level rose and land bridges disappeared cutting off migration routes until the next expansion of glaciations, which occurred during 14,000-25,000 years ago.
http://www.asianresearch.org/articles/1943.html

And here is a description from a page about hominid art during the last Ice Age:

Ice Age Art concerns artifacts that were produced by primarily nomadic people who lived from 35,000 to 12,000 years ago, during the last Ice Age. Although the evolution of humankind from early hominid forms to Homo sapiens sapiens covered some four to five million years, the invention of "art" occurred only at the very end of this process. While there is some evidence that the Neanderthals (70,000-37,000 years ago) shaped various ritual objects, art begins to appear in abundance only after modern humans come on the scene.
http://www.humanities-interactive.org/a ... 38_02.html

That should answer your question.

Now, how about your reasoning behind "believing in God" ...

I thought id add a bit to this thread being how i believe in God,We as human beings are entittled to what ever we choose to believe,,as it has been said.

I Respect all views because thats what makes us all different in that we can all believe in something different,yet still Respect one another.

And as it was once said to me yrs ago,Maybe God exist's maybe not,But if God didnt exist's and its just mass illusion,,would that be such a bad thing to believe in?

I lost my brother last summer and one of the things he charished most was the beliefe that he had that God would comfort him as he went away.

I couldnt really say weather that happened or not but i do know that as long as he thought so,,I didnt have such a hard time saying good bye.

Anyway my point here was I like the fact that i can meet people with different outlooks and still be a part of a thriving family and community....

Didint mean for this to be so long and very nice to meet you all....(Star).........

Sorry to hear about your brother.

A good reply, and it's not a bad thing to believe in God.
What is bad though, is attacking the mislogic in someone's beliefs, but not addressing the ones in their own faith. I still have no answer to my questions.

In my experience, I used to believe that there really is GOD. Considering coming from a catholic school wayback high school there has been a lot of teachings about HIM. There was never a time that i questioned him nor doubt him.

But looking to what happened to my life now, i tend to doubt if there really is such thing as God. I know that my faith right now is bein tested. I'm just human thus entitled for a mistake.

That's all I can say about this question..

Peace ya'll..

I didn't have time to read al the replies (7 pages!!!!!) I won't talk from my perspective or whether i believe or not i'll just talk about PSI if anyone here knows about psi (telekinesis, telepathy, viewing...) ( http://www.psipog.com ) then you'll see that, from this perspective, miracles can be caused by the strong beleif that the thing will hapen, god may be only a reason to convince our inner mind that this or that will happen (the only fact that we believe in it will make it happen).

Like in telekinesis where you strongly believe that something will move and it does.
some psychologists and parapsychologists who made researches on this subject said that if you really believe in something it will happen (they even went to say that if you believe you don't have this or that disease this will be the cure) this applies to the woman who stayed (i don't know how many exactly) years besides her coma-state daughter, talking to her, holding her hand until she finally woke up after many years.

Greets,
Joe.

Coincidence works in mysterious ways

In the coma example it was a question of time, and I have never heard of anyone being able to move anything with just willpower. Magicians can fly in a sealed glass box, telekinesis might be (is) a well rehearsed trick.
Of course, that'd all depend on the nature of the universe etc.

Samppa wrote:telekinesis might be (is) a well rehearsed trick.

If you don't believe in telekinesis, u gotta try it out yourself, trust me, try it, it'll work: read article on the web one or them is http://www.psipog.com

Greets,
Joe.

SgtSlaughter wrote:The Big Bang? Who actually believes that? You know what's funny? These scientists can think of all matter coming out of a single tiny particle that blew up, but they can't think of a better name then "The Big Bang"? Something's warped, and it's the whole theory. That's just stupid.

Actually, the name initially was derogatory, but it became the accepted name with time.

my 2 pennies worth...

The fact that there are many religions on this planet, to me, proves (in my mind at least) the non-existence of God.

All religions, past and present, have had holy scripts written or transmitted by the spoken word, which lay out the laws, beliefs, ways of life, rules and regulations of that particular religion - suposedly transmitted by the god to certain individuals.
We take in information through our senses - sight, sound, kinesthetic etc - and this is how we construct OUR image(s) of reality. This is different for each person. Most of us react to surroundings in a simialar way which allows us to live together with this shared but slightly differnt view of our environment. So when i am told something, or I see something, or I feel something it will be slightly different to the person standing next to me. It can't be the same because we both have had different events and situtations in our lives that have helped to form and mold us to the way we are, and act, today. These differences can be very small and subtle or can be very great.
So 100 people standing on a hill listening, for example, to a man called jesus will walk away with 100 different interpretaions of what he said. Many will be so similar as to make no difference but others will be remarkably different. Some people will focus on somethings that were said while others will focus on others. Some people will mix up what he said, be confused about some things, combine other aspects together to form new and different meanings.
So now out of these 100 people 10 of them have a burning desire to tell everyone what they heard. Maybe 8 of them tell a similar story but the other 2 put a different slant onthe story and it diverges from the origional. Each time the story is told the listeners translate it through their own filters and come up with their own understandings and then go on to re-translate it to others. And so on and so on. Chinese whispers on a mass scale.
Now the same thing happens with other religions and over time we have many variations of the stories. We have many versions of the scripts written down over time and these are often ammended and changed by the powers that be to best represent the cultural and sociial beliefs of a particular time. Not to mention the mistakes, changes, errors made in translating form one language to another.
So we end up today with many variations of simalar stories. And it is these differnces that cause so much of the suffering and hardships in the world today.

Now if there was a god, and not just stories made up by man, then his/her/its/? word would be the one true word and it would be so seered into our brains, our feelings, our emotions that it could never be misinterpreted, misunderstood. it could never be translated wrongly. It could not be changed or altered by those wishing it to suit their needs better. Everyone would know it in their hearts that it was true and they could not change this truth no matter how hard they tried. And this word would be the same throughout mankind. Every religion believes there to be only one god, their god, and if this is so then the word of that god would be known by every person regardless of what country they live in. So if there was only one god and his word was the truth then all mankind would share the same religion. This is not the case so it leads me to two possible conclusions, first, there is no god, or second, there are many gods.

I choose the first conclusion, at this moment in time.

YES THERE IS A GOD, WE'RE HERE AREN'T WE!

If there were no God, we wouldn't be having this chat... Also you have to believe in something to believe it's not real... hrm.. think about that

Krizstan, could you prepare your argument a little better? I don't see how us being here has anything to do with God.

Misread, see below, they cover it pretty welll.

KriZstan wrote:Also you have to believe in something to believe it's not real... hrm.. think about that

Do you believe in a giant invisible purple flying ninja-dragon that eats only Cheerios?

Me neither. And that doesn't make it real.

nighthawk wrote:

KriZstan wrote:Also you have to believe in something to believe it's not real... hrm.. think about that

Do you believe in a giant invisible purple flying ninja-dragon that eats only Cheerios?

Me neither. And that doesn't make it real.

damn have you seen them aswell..thought it was only me