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by **zapad** on Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:35 pm

Who believes in God ?
I don't believe :)

by **FLuXx** on Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:40 pm

I for a long time didn't want to believe there is a god. But key there is -want-. I didn't want to because I didn't like the idea that there is someone else controlling things.

Then I came to a conclusion, that well first of all, there doesn't have to be 'a' god. There could be many....then recently I've began to believe in multiple gods. Whether I worship them or not is a different story.

Because I believe, as creative beings, we are our own gods. We create ourselves and the things around us.

But still, I believe in the theory of unity, that on the lowest level of conciousness as it were, we are all part of the same source.

edit: Whether there is a god or not, is something everyone must figure out on their ownI feel. Without churches or ministers or preachers.

(nothing said here is meant to be as offensive, if you were offended, please accept my scencerist apologies)

by **thebeast** on Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:42 pm

God is in our hearts, not in the sky ;-) Ah yeah thinking in logical that is many ppl think that is no god, but when on they droped some serious troubles tey calling a god name... Why? :-)

by **DrgbGT** on Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:04 pm

I'm not a believer...But i was since few years ago...I was born in a Cattolic family, so i received every kind of, ehm, i don't know how to say "sacramenti" in english....damn...

I think there's no god in our Earth, no god in our Universe...it's just a way to escape from troubles when you feel bad...that's my point of view.

thebeast said: "Ah yeah thinking in logical that is many ppl think that is no god, but when on they droped some serious troubles tey calling a god name.."

Ppl calls a god's name just to find something "safe" for their mind...it's just a suggestion, such as prehistoric men that believed in "spirits" or elemental gods...they just couldn't find any reason to some natural events...

However i don't agree with people believing in gods, but i respect them. You won't never see me burning bibles... Very Happy

by **bugalinux** on Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:45 pm

DrgbGT wrote:I'm not a believer...But i was since few years ago...I was born in a Cattolic family, so i received every kind of, ehm, i don't know how to say "sacramenti" in english....damn...

I think there's no god in our Earth, no god in our Universe...it's just a way to escape from troubles when you feel bad...that's my point of view.

thebeast said: "Ah yeah thinking in logical that is many ppl think that is no god, but when on they droped some serious troubles tey calling a god name.."

Ppl calls a god's name just to find something "safe" for their mind...it's just a suggestion, such as prehistoric men that believed in "spirits" or elemental gods...they just couldn't find any reason to some natural events...

However i don't agree with people believing in gods, but i respect them. You won't never see me burning bibles...

It's a pity there is no poll for this question ^^'

It's exactly what I think, I agree with you. For my part, nothing to write after that.

by **pugrit** on Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:43 pm

"I for a long time didn't want to believe there is a god. But key there is -want-. I didn't want to because I didn't like the idea that there is someone else controlling things. "

actually, we have free will. so God doesnt really control us like drones.

by **TonInter** on Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:33 pm

I truly believe that there is a god. Maybe its because some of us (believers) want to know that there is someone who guards us and takes care of us, someone that in general helps us live, because it makes us feel better.

by **Will** on Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:03 pm

Moved to Serious Discussion.

Don't click here! · by **Boso** on Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:42 pm

I'm sure that there is something that is bigger than us. Somethin much more inteligent and powerfull.

by **FLuXx** on Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:43 am

pugrit wrote:actually, we have free will.

I'm quite aware of free will, I'm a firm believer in it in fact. I never meant that we didn't.

pugrit wrote:so God doesnt really control us like drones.

I never described a god that acted as a puppet master for ever human being, I tried to keep things very general to avoid that. Because that's not what I feel.

I would like to say that's what I know, but of course one can never be 100% sure about these things.

But anyway, you're implying that there is a God, could you expand on that a little and give something more to this thread? (<- this is not remotely a flame!)

by **Bugs42** on Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:13 am

I suppose you'd call me agnostic, since I really ain't sure what I believe. The best theory I've heard is the "Clock-maker God" (proposed by a philosopher during the Renaissance, I think). Basically what he said was, there is a God, He created the universe, and now He just lets it run by itself with no more interference.

by **eosp** on Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:42 am

Objects with no force applied to them do not move. From this we can conclude logically that any creation, which we know did exist (we are here, right?) had something to start it. So therefore simple logic dictates that something exists, e.g. God, with power equal to the sum of the energy in the universe.

by **najum** on Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:17 am

Yes God does exist. I believe in

http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/QURAN/55.htm

Can a human do even one of them?

(I am not talking in any religious context).

by **whisky** on Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:02 pm

najum wrote:Yes God does exist. I believe in

http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/QURAN/55.htm

Can a human do even one of them?

(I am not talking in any religious context).

I agree

But oh well, different people, different beliefs Smile

by **zogo** on Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:34 pm

whisky wrote:But oh well, different people, different beliefs :)

Thank god for that (figuratively)

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