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zapad wrote:Who believes in God ?
I don't believe

Yes - there is a God. He doesn't even need us to believe in Him - but it is good for us if we do. Oddly enough, He lets us - if we desire to, to hack away at the very One who holds us in existance. Kind of like unraveling the thatch that holds the logs of our raft together. He will not force us to do anything.

Being free to be who we are meant to be - is the definition of happiness and bliss. God gives me this. The least I can do is thank Him for my existance which I had absolutely nothing to do with.

zapad wrote:Who believes in God ?
I don't believe

Woe to you!

God is Love! Love is God!
Praise the Lord! Alleluia!

..for God so loved the world that He gave His only Son....(to save the world!)

nokompranos wrote:

zapad wrote:Who believes in God ?
I don't believe

Yes - there is a God. He doesn't even need us to believe in Him - but it is good for us if we do. Oddly enough, He lets us - if we desire to, to hack away at the very One who holds us in existance. Kind of like unraveling the thatch that holds the logs of our raft together. He will not force us to do anything.

Being free to be who we are meant to be - is the definition of happiness and bliss. God gives me this. The least I can do is thank Him for my existance which I had absolutely nothing to do with.

Erm so what your saying is God is responisble that you are alive and kicking? If that's your anwser for your existance what do you say for the rest of us? Were all his children or what? And if your saying he is the "One who holds us in existance" is he also responsible for floods,earthquakes,monsunes and other disaster? I'm sorry but if he's the creator of all things living he's doing a really "shitty" job.

Greetings.

Erm so what your saying is God is responisble that you are alive and kicking? If that's your anwser for your existance what do you say for the rest of us? Were all his children or what? And if your saying he is the "One who holds us in existance" is he also responsible for floods,earthquakes,monsunes and other disaster? I'm sorry but if he's the creator of all things living he's doing a really "shitty" job.

Greetings.

Well yes, we have broken what was originally good. Contrary to popular opinion, there are consequences for every action. So when you look at it that way - God is really very very very patient with us. Everyone likes to think that God is taking it out on them unfairly...but really when you look at what humanity has done - the depths of depravity it has sunk to - we're getting off easy.

That's basicly out of constumtion, every human being is reponsible for his own acts it has nothing to do with the supernatural such as God. But hey that's your opinion your a cathlic i'm an atheist, I rather do other stuff then believe in some made-up stories, carry on with your work, and say hi to God for me.

Greetz.

There could be, but maybe there isn't. I could argue both sides. But in the end I'd say there is not a God.
And no you can not persuade me. I do, however, respect everyone's views and beleifs despite who or what they may be. Cheers all.

Tavy wrote:There could be, but maybe there isn't. I could argue both sides. But in the end I'd say there is not a God.
And no you can not persuade me. I do, however, respect everyone's views and beleifs despite who or what they may be. Cheers all.

Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life"

zapad wrote:Who believes in God ?
I don't believe

I suggest you visit and read the Catechism of the Catholic Church: http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/ccc_toc.htm

or

Does God Exist? : http://www.doesgodexist.org/

It's funny the way believers whine when someone tries to prove god doesn't exist about why don't you respect my beliefs. Then the same believers will happily disrespect your beliefs and try to convert you.

No person that has an opinion on a subject such as this will be converted by a) Copying & pasteing the bible, or b) posting links to overly biased websites.

I wish people would stop trying.


On a side note, calling someone's beliefs "made up stories" isn't the best attitude to have, we could do with less of that too.

I beleve. How are we here than?

Can you spell science?

Intresting topic, I think i would belive in the giaa (not sure how you spell it) theroy more then anything, maybe higher power but other then that im not to sure.

i believe ther is a god

maybe god is a living being and his existence can be explained by science, only scientific studies can't be done yet because no human has ever made direct contact with him yet and his whereabouts is unknown.


wild theory i must say but possible

*laughs at myself*

God does not exist, it is just a construct of human imagination to explain what cannot be explained. ie the creation of the earth

chiron wrote:God does not exist, it is just a construct of human imagination to explain what cannot be explained. ie the creation of the earth

Not sure what the policy is on quoting from others... but I couldn't say this more clearly than G.K. Chesterton could in his book "Orthodoxy":

"...That a good man may have his back to the wall is no more than we knew
already; but that God could have his back to the wall is a boast for all
insurgents for ever. Christianity is the only religion on earth that has
felt that omnipotence made God incomplete. Christianity alone has felt
that God, to be wholly God, must have been a rebel as well as a king.
Alone of all creeds, Christianity has added courage to the virtues of the
Creator. For the only courage worth calling courage must necessarily mean
that the soul passes a breaking point - and does not break..."

You'll have to read the rest for yourself somewhere online. Just google Chesterton Orthodoxy Rebel.