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nighthawk wrote:

banderlog wrote:EVEN ?!?!?!?! ONLY Usa used A-bomb !!! And that is the reason why other countries have had to make their own nuclear weapons. Only to protect themselves from agressor that have NO humanity.

That is completely false. Russia, United Kingdom, France, China, India, and Pakistan have all detonated nuclear weapons.

I think his point was that the US is the only country to have used an a-bomb in war. Other countries have only tested them, not actually used them to destroy an opposing country's city or anything.

god created the human
the human created the A-bomb
the human destroyed god
the human destroyed himself

I'm a bit influenced by what dr. malcolm from jurassic park said ain't I?

Bugs42 wrote:

nighthawk wrote:

banderlog wrote:EVEN ?!?!?!?! ONLY Usa used A-bomb !!! And that is the reason why other countries have had to make their own nuclear weapons. Only to protect themselves from agressor that have NO humanity.

That is completely false. Russia, United Kingdom, France, China, India, and Pakistan have all detonated nuclear weapons.

I think his point was that the US is the only country to have used an a-bomb in war. Other countries have only tested them, not actually used them to destroy an opposing country's city or anything.

We also have to remember that the US never signed the Geneva Convention, so other weapons of war (chemical, etc.) can be legally used by the United States agaisnt other countries. Isn't that fun?

jetstorm wrote:god created the human
the human created the A-bomb
the human destroyed god
the human destroyed himself

I'm a bit influenced by what dr. malcolm from jurassic park said ain't I?

that's awesome

nighthawk wrote:

banderlog wrote:EVEN ?!?!?!?! ONLY Usa used A-bomb !!! And that is the reason why other countries have had to make their own nuclear weapons. Only to protect themselves from agressor that have NO humanity.

That is completely false. Russia, United Kingdom, France, China, India, and Pakistan have all detonated nuclear weapons.

U've forgot Australia
BUT noone from these countries has bombed another country. Its only a pityfull example of Nagasaki and Hirosima in the history. So, don't u remember WHO bombed these cities?

I'm not positive but I don't think Australia has ever detonated a nuclear weapon, I know the Brits and Yanks have done testing in the desert here though.

im against let's come back and fight with maces!! xD

banderlog wrote:BUT noone from these countries has bombed another country. Its only a pityfull example of Nagasaki and Hirosima in the history. So, don't u remember WHO bombed these cities?

However, they didn't really know what the two bombs would do. In fact, the affects of the radiation sickness from the two detonations were first observed in those who survived the two blasts. At the time, nuclear weapons were just considered "big bombs", and no different from conventional weaponry. Hell, the United States ran training missions in which they would detonate a bomb in the desert, and then practice running soldiers through the blast zone. They had no idea what was going on.

Sometime google and download the video "Duck and Cover". It's an old film for children's schools that basically displays the knowledge that people had over atomic weaponry.

nighthawk wrote:

banderlog wrote:BUT noone from these countries has bombed another country. Its only a pityfull example of Nagasaki and Hirosima in the history. So, don't u remember WHO bombed these cities?

However, they didn't really know what the two bombs would do. In fact, the affects of the radiation sickness from the two detonations were first observed in those who survived the two blasts. At the time, nuclear weapons were just considered "big bombs", and no different from conventional weaponry. Hell, the United States ran training missions in which they would detonate a bomb in the desert, and then practice running soldiers through the blast zone. They had no idea what was going on.

Sometime google and download the video "Duck and Cover". It's an old film for children's schools that basically displays the knowledge that people had over atomic weaponry.

Now we know the effects of radiation. Nuclear bombs are Massive Destruction Weapons, they should be forbidden, because not only they kill at the time of the explosion, they kill also a long time after the explosion (and often after the war). And the consequences on nature are very important too.

Using Nuclear Bombs just create hatred and dead. Not peace. That's why I don't understand people voted "for".

I dont thonk peoples realy know what nuclear bomb is. once detonated there is a synthesis of helium nucleus. The temperature accumulate is approximately like solar one. So if you are close to the detonation,
radiation is the last you have to think about. You will burn like a torch. I have wrote thise because obviously peoples think that the radiation is the most terible think. I dont say that she`s not but i`m not against nuclear weapons becouse of her, i`m against nuclear weapons because they can cost alot of innocent victims.

goliat wrote:I dont thonk peoples realy know what nuclear bomb is. once detonated there is a synthesis of helium nucleus. The temperature accumulate is approximately like solar one. So if you are close to the detonation,
radiation is the last you have to think about. You will burn like a torch. I have wrote thise because obviously peoples think that the radiation is the most terible think. I dont say that she`s not but i`m not against nuclear weapons becouse of her, i`m against nuclear weapons because they can cost alot of innocent victims.

May be radiations are less chocking (hmm I don't know if I can say that...). I agree with your point of vue but, the radiations impact is important too (as important as the detonation). The effects cause cancers & increase adn alteration sickness. We can't ignore that.

Links :
http://www.rerf.or.jp/eigo/titles/radtoc.htm
http://www.ccnr.org/

Yes, the radiation is indeed very dangerous. I`ve watch a film dedicatet to childrens, victims of Chernobil. Each one of this childrens has at least two different types of cancer. It`s indeed terrible. So everyone who is for nuclear devices, wakes yourself, see the truth in the eyes. Nukes are really the most terrible of all the weapons, because amongst the victims, predominate innocents souls!

nighthawk wrote:However, they didn't really know what the two bombs would do.

Do you really think that these guys were so slow that after the first bomb they tried to see another? Haha. It was made in "compos mentis".

After the first bomb 6th august 1945 at 8:15 in Hirosima 66 000 people dead and 69000 were wounded, 4 square miles of the city were erased from the Earth surface. This fact was said by Harry Trueman in 16 hours after that terrible blow. So ... ))) Dont try to let them seem "white-fluffy-tail-rabbit".

I'm sure Truman himself went there and counted teh victims ;] I'm interested in how they estimated at the time..

Thats like the bomber pilots. They never went down to see what theyer bombs do, how many peoples they kill or making them invalids. Every normal man will become demented and will loose his dream.