For or against nuclear weapons?

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for or against nuclear weapons

for
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20%
against
73
76%
i don`t realy care
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Total votes : 95

Postby Agamemnon on Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:50 pm

Nukes are horrible. They kill civians and pollute the environment.
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Postby Tim on Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:03 am

Agamemnon wrote:Nukes are horrible. They kill civians and pollute the environment.

I'm sure countless people can do the same thing with the gas that comes from their body....
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Postby pcweirdo on Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:07 pm

Tim wrote:I strongly disagree with that, public support should have absolutely no influence in the militaries decision to launch a nuclear warhead.


Maybe it's just the movies misinforming me, but if I understand correctly the President of the USA is also the Commander-in-Chief of the military, and that his authorisation is required for a nuclear strike. With left-wing influence everywhere, I could see the people easily turning against a nuclear strike, even one in their own best interests. (Yes, people are screwed up.) Thus, the President would likely be replaced at the next election, and his party shamed by the fickle media.

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Postby goliat on Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:04 pm

I can`t still believe that someone can vote for nuclear weapond. What`s wrong with you peoples? Sad
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Postby NeonTempest on Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:59 pm

Nuclear warfare is something we would LOVE to uninvent. However, we can't. Soon enough there will be even worse things out there.
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Postby jaguar616 on Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:02 pm

The sad thing is this stuff will go on killing, as it breaks from the containers they think will be able to hold it safe for thousands of years.
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Postby Tim on Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:53 pm

pcweirdo wrote:Maybe it's just the movies misinforming me, but if I understand correctly the President of the USA is also the Commander-in-Chief of the military, and that his authorisation is required for a nuclear strike.


This may or may not be true, I have no idea, I'm no American but even if it is, I'm positive that it would not be the president who called for the attack he would just be rubber stamping it. I know that he needs to do that much, whether or not he actually gets that involved in the processes I don't know.
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Postby zogo on Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:13 am

he is a commander-in-chief, among other functions.
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Postby NeonTempest on Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:15 am

however, to use such a device, he would have to get aproval from the congress...unless there was a real emergency. Which there isnt.
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Postby R-WaT on Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:57 am

should of nuked bin laden... cmon now, the dude tore us up.. we need pay back Smile
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Postby pcweirdo on Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:32 am

R-WaT wrote:should of nuked bin laden... cmon now, the dude tore us up.. we need pay back Smile


Nuclear weapons aren't much of a useful tactic against terrorists these days, since the terrorists tend to hide among innocent people (geographically and by infecting institutions).

I think nukes are probably best kept for wiping out any potential zombie-nation and/or robot nation. But only if they aren't nice to us.

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Postby sasho_metala on Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:49 pm

All the people must be against any type of killing or hurting the others!!!! Everyone mustn’t do something, that he wants not to happen to him!
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Postby al_tyranny on Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:29 am

goliat wrote:I can`t still believe that someone can vote for nuclear weapond. What`s wrong with you peoples? Sad


Perhaps the pertinent question here is what is wrong with you?

After your initial post linking to pictures of victims of the bombing, I don't think you've really contributed a whole lot, except by stating that there is still nuclear radiation affecting the bomb zones, and that it causes cancer. Beyond that, you really haven't given a cohesive, or even remotely complete, argument about why nuclear weapons are bad. Then you boldly assert that there is something wrong with those here who can see why it is necessary (and have vehemently tried to explain why it is necessary) to keep atomic weaponry at this point in time, as you offhandedly sweep our detailed explanations away in a carefree manner.

Tell me though, did you really start this thread to promote discussion of a controversial topic and have a mature expression of ideas and sound reasoning, or did you just start it, expecting 100% support that nukes are bad because they are large-scale war-time weapons, and then mentally tune out when someone offers a differing viewpoint?
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Postby Tim on Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:54 am

NeonTempest wrote:however, to use such a device, he would have to get aproval from the congress...unless there was a real emergency. Which there isnt.

No he wouldn't. Congress has nothing to do with warfare at the time it is happening, and even if they did it would mean nothing as the presidents decision is what happens, he can veto any decision made by them.
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Postby goliat on Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:20 am

There is several reasons that I am AGAINS :
1.They don`t kill only solgiers, they kill thousants civilians, peoples that have nothing to do with war.
2.The radiation poisonned the nature for hundreds years and couses various types of cancer
3.Еxcessively use of nuclear weapons can kill all the life on the planet.
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