For or against nuclear weapons?

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Postby Spiritfall on Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:55 pm

we don`t need the nuclear weapons because is a way of auto-destruction
we should live in peace
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Postby FLuXx on Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:03 am

I think Albert Einstein said it best when he said:

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."


I'm not clear on my position honestly on this matter. I don't think nuclear weapons are necessary. Though the idea of wiping out an entire city supposedly filled with people who want to kill us, is just dandy. But wait... how likely is it that we will need to wipe out an entire city? And how likely is it that every person in that city is taking action to hurt us? Aren't our cities just as likely to be plotting against them?

Killing isn't the key anyway, even in the Art of War it is said that it is better to capture than to destroy.

Although I do realize, some people just won't go down without a fight. I wish I could say that is understandable, but nuclear weapons seem like a waste of time.

So with that said, guess it sounds I'm more anti-nucelar weapons.
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Postby fishpoo222 on Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:04 am

there completley over the top

i went on a french nuclier submarine last year and they carry 16, if they are given the order to fire they dont just use one but all 16 aimed with pin point accuracy against one targed
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Postby goliat on Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:34 pm

I dont think they have to strike more than 1 rocket pet target to destroy him.
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Postby mm_freak on Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:53 am

goliat wrote:I dont think they have to strike more than 1 rocket pet target to destroy him.


Yes, they do. Some people think that nuclear weapons could easily destroy an entire country, but that's not true. Building such a warhead would be too expensive and too risky, because it might, with a small probability, fail to work.
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Postby banderlog on Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:35 pm

OperationSundevil wrote:if you actually think about it, nuclear weapons are just terrible, even in US hands...


EVEN ?!?!?!?! ONLY Usa used A-bomb !!! And that is the reason why other countries have had to make their own nuclear weapons. Only to protect themselves from agressor that have NO humanity.
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Postby goliat on Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:36 pm

i dont think someone will strike cityes. they will probably strake military base and how everibody know bases are not so big and 1 rocket is enought
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Postby OperationSundevil on Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:30 am

banderlog wrote:
OperationSundevil wrote:if you actually think about it, nuclear weapons are just terrible, even in US hands...


EVEN ?!?!?!?! ONLY Usa used A-bomb !!! And that is the reason why other countries have had to make their own nuclear weapons. Only to protect themselves from agressor that have NO humanity.


that's exactly my point...
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Postby zogo on Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:43 am

Well, I have to jump in here :)

As far as I know, Germany's been working on the development of nuclear weapons before the second world war. I know a person on these forum who would know this, and who'll correct me if needed ;]

As far as the humanity, I can remember at least one nuclear country with totally inhumane politics, a country that basically starved their people and forced poverty onto them just so they could stay competitive in the nuclear arms race.

I do agree that the 'even in the US hands' is kinda silly ;]
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Postby mm_freak on Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:17 am

zogo wrote:As far as I know, Germany's been working on the development of nuclear weapons before the second world war. I know a person on these forum who would know this, and who'll correct me if needed ;]


Yes, that's true. In the Third Reich under Hitler's control, scientists urged to build the first A-bomb, but they failed. Their idea was to create artillery warheads instead of mass-destruction weapons, to improve the Blitzkrieg strategy. They tried to replace A-weapons for mass destruction by B-weapons. Kurt Blome, along with other biology and chemistry scientists, experimented on pathogens suitable for biological warfare, using Jews and other prisoners in the concentration camp of Dachau.
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Postby banderlog on Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:42 pm

zogo wrote:... I can remember at least one nuclear country with totally inhumane politics, a country that basically starved their people and forced poverty onto them just so they could stay competitive in the nuclear arms race...


I've noticed that my IP is toooo self-speaking Wink

But what should we do if our country is 1/6 part of dry land of the earth? And every1 wants our oil, gas, nickel, uran, diamonds and even soil. Only gemans fought with us more than 100 times. As for poverty ... hm ... the most part of any ppl thinks that better be poor and free than slave or even dead like every 4th of belorussians after 2nd world war.

I dont like wars, weapons or deaths of ppl of any nations. But one simple thing exist: every1 must protect his own Fathherland. By any means. 'coz its the main aim of man existance.
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Postby goliat on Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:57 pm

Maybe if i was russian too i will be for nuclear boms too.
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Postby thebeast on Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:06 am

Someday nuclear weapons will bring us to end of the world if ppl will not get on they mind... Like someone sayd: "I don't know with what weapons will be 3rd World War, but i know that 4th World War will be with rocks and sticks". And i think this is true...
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Postby Bugs42 on Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:58 am

thebeast wrote:Someday nuclear weapons will bring us to end of the world if ppl will not get on they mind... Like someone sayd: "I don't know with what weapons will be 3rd World War, but i know that 4th World War will be with rocks and sticks". And i think this is true...

If you'd read the 2nd post on this page, you'd know exactly who said it Wink


I think nuclear weapons are horrible, and that is precisely why they are necessary. A general (I think it was General Lee from the U.S. Civil War, but I could be wrong) said that "It is good that war is so terrible, else we should grow to like it." Nuclear weapons take that to the extreme. The more horrifying weapons get, the more people will try to avoid war.
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Postby Will on Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:52 pm

banderlog wrote:EVEN ?!?!?!?! ONLY Usa used A-bomb !!! And that is the reason why other countries have had to make their own nuclear weapons. Only to protect themselves from agressor that have NO humanity.


That is completely false. Russia, United Kingdom, France, China, India, and Pakistan have all detonated nuclear weapons.
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