Cloning - For or Against

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Postby Myst on Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:47 pm

Immortality wouldnt be impossible if we had the technology to clone a full grown human including the brain.
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Postby Samppa on Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:28 pm

I just explained why it would be impossible - you would die. Your clone would live, but all you're doing is passing your memories and wisdom (if you have any Wink ) to that clone. The clone lives, but you will die, and you will not be able to live through the clone. Your clone would think "Hell, I'm immortal", but you yourself would still be dead as dead.
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Postby Myst on Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:38 pm

well technically if your thoughts / feelings / everything form ur brain gets transfered then you would be immortal. Sure your PHYSICAL self may be dead but you urself/inner self are still good to go.
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Postby Samppa on Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:02 pm

No. When you die, you could not transfer yourself into the clone. The clone would be a totally different entity from yourself, though you would be completely alike. You would die, and you would not be capable of living the future. The clone would live in the future after your death, but it is a completely different entity, and you could not transfer yourself into the clone when you die, thus rendering you as mortal as you were before.

The bottom line is, your thoughts could live on in a different person (your clone for example), but you could not live through the clone yourself. The clone is a different being from yourself. While it looks and acts just like you, it is still a different person. You cannot live through your child when you die to experience the future, how could you do the same through a clone.
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Postby wegstar on Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:05 am

why use cloning for immortality? Besides, I think people are grasping for here is "consciousness", this cannot be seemingly be transferred... while memories and other stuff can be.
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Postby sayuz on Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:56 am

i think that if it`s about organ clonning it is ok for saving lives but only for that use!if we want to save a small kidd with a weak heart it`s ok...i think
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Postby Samppa on Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:00 am

wegstar wrote:why use cloning for immortality?


To err.. gain immortality? Very Happy


wegstar wrote:Besides, I think people are grasping for here is "consciousness", this cannot be seemingly be transferred... while memories and other stuff can be.


Just the word I was looking for.
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Postby gtsilosani on Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:27 am

Surely against it. Nature was planned by some super natural powers (dont want to discuss what everyone feels about it becaus eeveryone has its own opinion on that) and as soon as we will start breaking it's laws we all are going to get screwed
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Postby Myst on Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:03 am

Samppa thoughts feelings / goals all from ur brain is what LIVING is. I guess in the end its how one defines living.
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Postby Samppa on Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:01 pm

Myst wrote:Samppa thoughts feelings / goals all from ur brain is what LIVING is. I guess in the end its how one defines living.


If you ask me, living is being alive, not passing on your thoughts.
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Postby Myst on Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:24 am

I guess in the end its how one defines alive Razz
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Postby debeaxcc on Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:49 pm

Cloning is a little part of the future. Machine is my way to go, I will cut down any part of my body to replace with a machine part. Just think of the posibilites to improve yourself by disassembly and reassembly and coding your own hardware.
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