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Samppa knows what he's talking about. If you clone someone..the genetics are the same..not the person. Just like identical twins. You don't go around yelling at a twin "Oh my god, clone! We all need to be inviduals! Different!"

So..I'm not against cloning.

It`s not easy to say is cloning is good or bad just like that. It has good and bad sides, but as a whole I`m agAINST cloning because, God is the only 'MaN' who can give lifes, and humans are still not gods. ANd as far as i know human nature, cloning will be used for the worst posible aims.....to create new viruses which will be used in wars and so on. Thats why cloning is not a good idea. I think that this is the most important thing.....God is only one...and nobody can be like Him

How would one go about creating viruses through cloning? Surely there are far more simple (is it even plausible to create viruses through cloning?) ways to do this.

Perhaps a different area of biogenetics and/or -chemistry..

Sure there will be some groups or persons that will try to exploit / steal such a technology for selfish reasons or bad bad reasons.


And you wouldnt be like playing God if you're cloning things for the good of a certain cause... its not like your cloning for the hell of it, but for some purpose. So therefore that wouldn't be like playing God. If God did exist he gave us the gift of a brain and if God was all knowing he would know the smartness we would develop upon the future and know the sort of things we would do. thus he would not have given us such a brain if he didnt want us to clone things or mind if we did such activities

On a final note,
God's a woman, cause lifes a bitch

i know i know, i crack myself up too

I hate the whole concept.

I think it's stupid, and doesn't show anything else than they are wasting their time.
It's not cool either.

IMHO.

Oh I see.. so developing a technology which could save more lives than ever before is stupid...


Lets first reach some sort of agreement everyone... You guys/gals do think cloning is OK to the point where it is saving someone's life and or helping them live a better one. i.e a cloned organ from a donor.

That's the point. I only support cloning organs to save people's life. That could considerably shorten waiting time for a donor. But we need to wait to make the technology developed enough. It can take years' time. And as long as no country supports experiments in cloning, there's no place to develop it. It's a vicious circle, but if some countries' government saw a proof that it works, this could change.

http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/H ... ml#organsQ

good site...explains a lot

I am in favor of cloning.... it is a new brach of science and will definately help us as we advance more and more.

Cloning is of manty uses... lets say for example "Cloning a DNA piece (e.g insulin) from humans and inserting that piece of DNA into a bactrerium. That bacteria will produce insulin for us and in more quantity than humans can. This is one type of cloning but cloning whole humans is wrong.

Very much against. Science is developing far too rapidly.

Personally, I favor cloning with restrictions. Obviously a clone won't be an exact copy of the original (Nature v. Nurture) but still is similar enough to pose a risk.

What sort of risk would a clone be?
a baby wouldnt pose a risk, since they are at the early developmental stage.

But would a full grown clone be a risk? How would this clone like have all the knowledge that is normal at this clone's age."? do you think that from cloning the knowledge also goes too? But wouldnt that defeat the idea of your environment makes you...? So if your environment is what molds you wouldn't a clone of a full grown human be like a vegtiable aka like a baby?

thoughts!!!!!?

Myst wrote:What sort of risk would a clone be?
a baby wouldnt pose a risk, since they are at the early developmental stage.

But would a full grown clone be a risk? How would this clone like have all the knowledge that is normal at this clone's age."? do you think that from cloning the knowledge also goes too? But wouldnt that defeat the idea of your environment makes you...? So if your environment is what molds you wouldn't a clone of a full grown human be like a vegtiable aka like a baby?

thoughts!!!!!?

Er, what?

I've gone over this, a clone of a human will be EXACTLY like another DIFFERENT human being - nothing like the cloned. Age will have nothing to do with it, the clone will be like any other child ever born.

I don't exactly understand what you mean though, could you make it more clearer?

What I mean is lets say they figure out how to clone a FULL GROWN human. Rather then at a embryonic stage.

Do you think the "knowledge" that the person being cloned has will transfer over to the clone.
Because if it didnt transfer over to the clone wouldnt the clone be like a vegtable aka a "retart"

No, the knowledge would not transfer.

But it doesn't either when a baby is concieved.