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C wrote:WHAT?
you think the radical terrorist mouvments only started when Bush got elected?
This go back 1500 years my friend!
Look around you. Name me 1 single conflict in the world that hasn't Islam as part of it!
I'm not backing Bush, he needs to do alot more to exterminate this threat. And that is not done with co allying with Saudi Arabia, or going easy on Syria or Driving the Israelis to withdraw from Gaza.
But certainly, those goat lovers are no victims. Their actions are not reactions to something inflicted on them recently.
Look at it from the big view. READ.

1) IRA ? a Muslim organisation?
2) Balkans are fighting in the name of islam?
3) Ata or ETA fighting in the name of islam in spain?

Dont blame islam, its the races or humans that are creating the fuss not the religion.

2) Balkans are fighting in the name of islam?

The major conflicts in the Balkans in early 1990s were between the Serbs (orthodox christian), Croats (catholics), and Bosnians (muslims).

The Kosovo conflict (started ~1970, lasted till 1999) was between the Serbs and the Albanians (also muslim).

zogo wrote:

2) Balkans are fighting in the name of islam?

The major conflicts in the Balkans in early 1990s were between the Serbs (orthodox christian), Croats (catholics), and Bosnians (muslims).

The Kosovo conflict (started ~1970, lasted till 1999) was between the Serbs and the Albanians (also muslim).

True but muslims only happen to be the party to the big picture of others. Islam has nothing to do with the conflict its the races fighting with each other. Croats with Serbs too.

najum wrote:... True but muslims only happen to be the party to the big picture of others. Islam has nothing to do with the conflict its the races fighting with each other. Croats with Serbs too...

You forgot bulgarians my dear pacifistic friend. )))

Osman invasion of Balkans by Turks-seldjucks (which are now known as Turkish). Didnt u remember how they tied mothers in every village (!!!) and force them to see how they killed the youngest child in every family? Or maybe u forgot about 1,5 millions of dead Armenians (which like Bulgarians were orthodox)?

Im really dont care about religion of any man. I even hate ppl who are religious fanatix like: pretty nice french (remember Varfolomey Night guys? ) or so-called americans (didnt u forgot how englishmens and spannish killed many-many native America ppl - Indians for their religion) i even suppose that many ppl here forgot the little kind crusaders from all Europe and forgot how they killed thousands and millions of muslims. And of course Teuton order in the favor of which some german nations got their common name Deutsch. Obviously they very proud of killing thousands of Baltics pagans. )))

So DONT BLAME EACH OTHER. All of that nations forever used religios fanatics to fight with each other. All of them have their hands in blood.

Dont Blame each other. Thats exactly what I am trying to say. People use to hide behind the shield of religion but infact Religion has nothing to do with the fight they fight.

Same things is happening now. Bin Laden or other (I dont even know any other names) are hiding behind he shield of Islam. But Islam itself doesn't preach of killing any human beings.

End point is, blaming is not gonna get anyone anywhere. Point is, how to deal with the terrorist?

My question is, "What creates a terrorist"? Unless we try to get the answer to this, we cannot satisfy "how to deal with them?".

God created evil but if God is supposed to be all powerful he should be able to stop evil - if he can't he isn't as great as a God he is according to the 7 characteristics of the classical God. If he is all knowing then he isn't a kind God otherwise he could stop it.

God created maybe becouse to learn us that evil is wrong, we just need to stop by our self... But nobody cares too much to stop it... If evil will be stoped all law institutions will lose they jobs ;-)

androme wrote:God created evil but if God is supposed to be all powerful he should be able to stop evil - if he can't he isn't as great as a God he is according to the 7 characteristics of the classical God. If he is all knowing then he isn't a kind God otherwise he could stop it.

Because balance is needed. Without evil, there wouldn't be any "good" because there's nothing to compare it to.

It wouldn't matter if there was no 'good' because people would still be acting the same way.

please explain me the login if there is logic at all...

you give your life for an idea that nobody sees and everybody dreams of... so you gave a whole life for the very dream?

Bugs42 wrote:Because balance is needed. Without evil, there wouldn't be any "good" because there's nothing to compare it to.

What I'm trying to say is, regardless if the word 'good' existed or not, or the presence of what people consider evil, then there still would be what people would, under the old definitions, consider good.

First of all define it ?

the word 'terrorist' is a synonym for the word "muslim" ?

when muslims don't have any problem with ur TATOOT why you are always taking their beards as a sign of terrorism ?

don't forget ,when you make every muslim a terrorist and invade their countries.. You are dealing with the majority of this world ??

we are terrorist ?

flamebait... don't do this. Thank you.

i have a very simple solution yet a bit cruel

i firmly believe that we should treat ALL terrorist like how Hitler treats the Jews. why ? terrorist believed in something that 99% of the world population disagreed upon.

there is NOT a reason to "reason" with on why we should go around and terrorize peaceful civilization. "Art of war", someone might say? i say BS! there will always be rich and poor people, there will always be hardworker and lazy ass who do nothing but jealous and/or do harmful things to other normal worker out there.

question yourself, if you do nothing but stay at home all day....beside enjoying with your current finance....once it runs out...what will you do ? IF you dont go back to work, i promise the idea of "make a quicky" will come up in your mind; in this case will either be rob banks or terrorize some people/family/places.

in conclusion, with terrorist there is not a need to even have a second thought of treating them like a human being because they have never seen us people as THEIR kind....ever before. civilize them ? sorry, i think they have been brainwash quite heavy and it will be a huge risk for anyone to THINK they can convert while there are sooooooooooooo many of them crazy terrorists out there.

IMO there are two causes of terrorism. Greed and Religion. Religion being the greater cause. Religion causes more hatred, wars and attrocities than anything else.
Think of Jeruselm..the most holy city in the world. It has Christians, Jews and Muslims all living together....and murdering each other with great gustoall in the name of their gods.