Dealing with terrorists

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Dealing with terrorists

Postby Will on Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:47 pm

Another civilian has been taken hostage by Iraqi Insurgents. He has made an appearence on a video released by the insurgents that he asks his family and town to petition the government to talk to the insurgents and meet their demands. However, the United States and other governments have a clearly defined position with terrorists- they don't negotiate with them. What are your views on the subject?
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Postby De Kus on Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:16 pm

  1. you cannot save everyone
  2. the safty of many is more important than of a few
  3. its hard for affected people and their acquaintance and relatives, but it can't be helped. Live sucks and shit happens.
  4. I would certainly not speak that way if im in c), but it can't be helped again, I cannot worry about such known crimes.
    how many cruel hostages are taken each day by mafia, but you never hear about? how many people suffer to death by hunger each day, but I rarely hear about them, how many people in asia lose some parts of their bodies in accidents that we cannot even imaging, but we don't know about it. We don't worry about the misery nobody tells us about, so why should we worry about people we were never involved with, just because they are in news? ^-^
  5. Theres nothing we can do about it, the only thing you can do is think about such things, when you go to the elecetion or if we decide to join some special forces Very Happy
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Postby thebeast on Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:23 pm

huh choose your destiny :-)
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Postby zogo on Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:05 am

'we' could have done something, but this country prefers to vote for the fuckin american idol than for the president.

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Postby goliat on Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:46 pm

Two bulgarian drivers was taked as hostiges last year. No one see them alive.
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Postby TacOps on Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:40 am

If it was me In the end I would die knowing you the world would go on fighting these bastards till there all dead!
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Postby Reth on Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:10 am

Honestly, the Terriosts aren't going about it the right way if they want to be respected. Going and blowing yourself to bits won't help people reconinize+respect your Religions ways. Taking hostages is even worse, unless they're a soldier, they've done nothing agaisn't your organization, so kidnapping them won't help your situation either.

Of course, this all isn't thier fault, bombing Irag to pieces probably didn't help much, either. 9/11 or not.

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Postby al_tyranny on Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:32 am

Reth wrote:Honestly, the Terriosts aren't going about it the right way if they want to be respected. Going and blowing yourself to bits won't help people reconinize+respect your Religions ways. Taking hostages is even worse, unless they're a soldier, they've done nothing agaisn't your organization, so kidnapping them won't help your situation either.

Of course, this all isn't thier fault, bombing Irag to pieces probably didn't help much, either. 9/11 or not.

-Reth


Actually, Reth, they see blowing themselves up as a quick way to paradise in the afterlife, because some great religious(meaning: terrorist) leader has told them so. In their eyes, this is the same as the old adage of "dying for one's country," bringing honor and respect to their families and their memory; they gain tremendous support with the religious zealots in their homeland.

Note though, that they have missed the point of life, which is to live as long as possible!
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Postby thoriumbr on Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:53 pm

imagine a life of a terrorist: his country was taken by enemies (in his mind). his family almost destroyed, his life ruined. He only wants to kill... Kill anyone... Even inocent people, because he was inocent before. So he will bomb himself somewhere... They don't want to live... Is a form od suicide, but rewarded and honored...
Perhaps his death makes other from his people to take the same way, or take someone from the "attacker" to think about it and stop the "attacks" against his country...
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Postby NeonTempest on Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:09 pm

This entire war is a waste. We are fighting a people who want to live in the 1700s not in the 2000s. We are fighting this war as if we are looking for tangable objects. Terrorism is a mindset. Any man woman or child could be a terrorist. There is no way to win this war.
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Postby jaguar616 on Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:36 pm

Debate is the only solution. Both sides must get away from the "if you don't do what we want we will kill you" patten of thought. You must offer a solution that benefits the other party not kills them.
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Postby evln on Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:55 am

I agree with jaguar616. The problem of terrorism can never be solved by treating it's symptoms. Trying to stop kidnappings or suicide bombings is futile as long as you don't resolve the real issue.

The terrorism associated with Muslims has as it's root cause, the Israel-Palestine issue. If you take a look at the history of zionism and creation of Isreal, later the expansions by Israel with their every move (however unreasonable) backed up by US blindly and the persecuton of Palestinians, you will come to know that the Arabs of that region got a really bad deal. For an example:

Just short of half a million Palestinians were displaced between December 1947 and the beginning of the first Zionist/Israeli-Arab war in May 1948. By the time the war ended, approximately 800,000 Palestinians had become refugees. More than 500 Palestinian villages with a land base of 17,178 square kilometers were erased from the map in a process described as "cleaning up the national views."

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Then, between the end of the first Arab-Israeli war in 1948 and the beginning of the second war in 1967, tens of thousands of Palestinians who remained inside what eventually became Israel were transferred internally, forced across armistice lines and deprived of their lands. It is estimated that by the sixties Israel had expropriated some 700 square kilometers of land from the indigenous Palestinian community that remained within the borders of the Jewish state.


The Paletinians now have been left with 10% of the land they used to have. Compound this by the oppression they have been undergoing recently.

I can't forsee an end to terrorism as long as this and other injustices continue.
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Postby pugrit on Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:16 pm

the should have solved this within themeselves and not by taking hostages. what can that accomplish? more hatred to their people.

actually a professor im my humanities class thinks that all this jihad thing started from the 'injustices' of crusades.

i dont know seems related though.. war and acts of injustice..
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Postby yongda on Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:51 am

how i wish that this will end but face it folks terrorist are here to stay .
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Postby pctech on Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:02 am

kill them all, but that costs too much. wait till they blow something up and use it to start a war that will accomplish little besides major debt. Learning self control is what the world needs but that wont happen, there is always some sick minded mother f'er that will create problems.
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