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i think God is everywhere.some belive we created God to vent out of sufferings and give hope of something but for some, The idea of God came from understanding life as it is its beauty and misery, the unexplainable mysteries,

if you ask a scientist where did the universe originated, they say from a big bang theory..like a big all exploding..but where did that ball came from?

just my thoughts though...

pugrit wrote:if you ask a scientist where did the universe originated, they say from a big bang theory..like a big all exploding..but where did that ball came from?

Where did a god come from?

God created the Universe.
God just exists.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

Theories...theories....and theories again....i knew another theory from four scientists saying "We are living in a yellow submarine, yellow submarine, yellow submarine..."

They were called....Beatles. Yes, something like that...

DrgbGT wrote:Theories...theories....and theories again....i knew another theory from four scientists saying "We are living in a yellow submarine, yellow submarine, yellow submarine..."

They were called....Beatles. Yes, something like that...

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Theories are the point of this thread. And in a way aren't we all scientists?

thebeast wrote:God is in our hearts, not in the sky Ah yeah thinking in logical that is many ppl think that is no god, but when on they droped some serious troubles tey calling a god name... Why?

i usually only say "... твою мать!!!" (... your mother).
abd i kno many ppl who tell the same )))

DrgbGT wrote:I'm not a believer...But i was since few years ago...I was born in a Cattolic family, so i received every kind of, ehm, i don't know how to say "sacramenti" in english....damn...

I think there's no god in our Earth, no god in our Universe...it's just a way to escape from troubles when you feel bad...that's my point of view.

thebeast said: "Ah yeah thinking in logical that is many ppl think that is no god, but when on they droped some serious troubles tey calling a god name.."

Ppl calls a god's name just to find something "safe" for their mind...it's just a suggestion, such as prehistoric men that believed in "spirits" or elemental gods...they just couldn't find any reason to some natural events...

However i don't agree with people believing in gods, but i respect them. You won't never see me burning bibles...

compleetly agree. I can just say in addition that ppl with power invented god to easier control the ppl flock. and any churche serves the same aim.

I belive in God. I was quite surprised to read your theoyes about God. I respect your thoughts but I don't agree the majority. Don't missunderstand me, I am not trying to convert someone, just to expose my vision. I take a simple example: try to explain yourself what is the universe, the infinite, and how it comed into beeing; The Big Bang theory is insulting our inteligence and the last 100 years of continuous scientific discovers. It is absurd to think that the explosion of a primeval atom created the universe, the life and the inteligence. Darwin's theory of evolution is another foolishness. Science itself proves that most of bilogical systems are unable to develop new functions so I ask you; how is it possible to belive, in the name of science, that a cell evolved and becomed human + animals + and + and plus many others. The truth is right here near us and we are ignoring it. I can't figure why.

I don`t believe in god, but i believe in destiny. Everyone has a destiny and can`t do anythink to change her but there is not a god, the big boss who deside what to hapen

makehaste wrote:The Big Bang theory is insulting our inteligence and the last 100 years of continuous scientific discovers. It is absurd to think that the explosion of a primeval atom created the universe, the life and the inteligence.

The Big Bang Theory does not state that everyone can from the explosion of an atom, rather, all matter expanded from a gravitional singularity at a point in our past. This is upheld through the observation that the universe is expanding, and is held in constant with theories on general relativity. Before the Big Bang, there is no concept of matter, time, or space because the Big Bang caused the expansion and creation of space-time itself. Pre-singularity is an time period we will never be able to know about.

makehaste wrote:Darwin's theory of evolution is another foolishness. Science itself proves that most of bilogical systems are unable to develop new functions so I ask you; how is it possible to belive, in the name of science, that a cell evolved and becomed human + animals + and + and plus many others. The truth is right here near us and we are ignoring it. I can't figure why.

First off, Darwin did not invent the theory of evolution, rather the theory of natural selection. The Theory of Evolution was around before him. And in regards to evolution and natural selection, we can see this right now in fact. The scare of antibiotic resistant bactieria is because bacteria reproduce explosivly and on a small scale can quicky produce beneficial mutations to prevent antibiotics from being effective. Another example of evolution is the case of the hawthorn fly. When non-native apples were introduced into North America, a new species of hawthorn fly emerged feeding solely on apples. The fact that evolution occurs is a fact, what is the controversy is if it can produce complex organisms and organ systems. I suggest you read books on Mendellian genetics and genetic variation in populations.

Not trying to convert either!

i believe in God. i'm from New Zealand and I spend a lot of time in the outdoors in this beautiful country (well i think its beautiful anyway). Whenever i stop and take a look at what is around me, i can't help but think that nature is too perfect to just have "happened". i dunno. its the same when i think about the human body and how it all works so perfectly together - it could only be like that by design (it would seem to me). faith is a beautiful thing - its a pity that organised religion has stuffed that up for the majority of the world

Should i really believe it.

THe Church is to sleep. Why God didn't help me at work or at school.

He doesn't exist.

Ok, let's keep this discussion normal. If you're argument is "why didn't god help me in school", keep it out of this thread please.

It is a simple, proven fact of physics that any force had to have something to start it. Therefore, there needed to be something to start the universe (the cause of the big bang.)

Therefore, something powerful enough to start the universe exists...even if he/she/it doesn't have a role in our lives directly.

eosp wrote:It is a simple, proven fact of physics that any force had to have something to start it. Therefore, there needed to be something to start the universe (the cause of the big bang.)

Therefore, something powerful enough to start the universe exists...even if he/she/it doesn't have a role in our lives directly.

We also see then that something had to create that powerful force to begin with. And we are back where we started from. Why create a multitude of unproven variables?

It's a long, long discussion....it has no end.

We actually CAN'T get the truth, we ain't got enough knowledge of our past to "imagine" what there was in our universe...

So we can keep talking about this situation and post our opinion, but we'll never get the truth.....it's one of the things i hate most....