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I think I'd rather let Raven post now since I can see you're missing it.

SoLveD wrote:i wish i knew finnish cause i dont think you can read and interpret english all that great samppa.

check it out... lets say you like cheese... cheese is good.. so you say..lol
someone else comes and says cheese is nasty? does that change your opinion about cheese? if it does then i will admit i am wrong..

but like i said before.. if the person says the knowledge is worth it... and that same person started the topic in the first place.... yeah i would say that your post was very irrelevant to the answer of his question. simple logic dude... think before you act... look before you leap even... rofl

[SoLveD]

This is a very good point. I was going to reply with something like this, but you beat me to it. Yes, I believe you will be able to become a good logical thinker if you work on those English skills. Keep it up.

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Feck it, it's not worth it. Why don't you both go work on that "logical thinking", I can see you need it.

Samppa wrote:/edit


Feck it, it's not worth it. Why don't you both go work on that "logical thinking", I can see you need it.

I can see you are in need of more logical thinking. Think harder on why you are still posting and spamming my thread. You attempted to explain your point, but what is your point? Your attempts to flame others aren't very useful. I read most of your posts. They are mostly spam. Do you really think your penis is bigger because your post count is higher? Learn to accept the technology world instead of trying to hide from it.

Right, fine, I apoplogise, I got pissed off by some immature kid.


The reason I posted in the first place because you, Raven, had come out arrogant and obnoxious in your posts regarding the issue. By this I mean you regarded people with knowledge on the matter differently, and seemed unable to understand that other people may not share your hobby. I then decided to point out what solved so cleverly noticed as well: Other people may not like the things you like, which lead to my original quote and post.
The reason I kept posting ("spamming") was because I felt as if you'd missed the point of my post, and I thought I'd finish what I'd set out to do. I've decided against the pursuit of this, but I'd be happy to clearly state what my original post was all about.

I do not understand this though: "Learn to accept the technology world instead of trying to hide from it.". I do not know where you have gotten the idea that I'm running from technology. All I've said is that hacking a game is not what I would like to do with my spare time. And for the record, that is not an attack on you..


As for the picture in my signature, I would have hoped people could take it with humour. However, this does not seem to be the case and I will hasten to remove it to avoid future misunderstandings.

its alright samppa dude... i know you like debating with me..even tho you lose most of the time...rofl

just messing with you by the way..
you know i couldnt help myself
>=D
[SoLveD]

Raven wrote:I am just interested in knowing who is up to my level with this topic

You mean down to your level, don't you?

Cheating is for LUSERS!

Oh dear callihn. Raven will have a field day

callihn wrote:

Raven wrote:I am just interested in knowing who is up to my level with this topic

You mean down to your level, don't you?

Cheating is for LUSERS!

Cheating is only considered cheating if you get caught. I don't need to cheat since I don't play. The point is being able to have the knowledge to understand how a cheat could work. It is mostly about security and not cheating.

Someone like yourself would use a cheat to play the game if you were able to leech the hacks. I suppose that is what you are meaning when you say "You mean down to your level, don't you? Cheating is for LUSERS!" I wouldn't have the time for that. That is why I move on to more advanced code.

I used to play StarCraft like yourself. I believe we had a conversation about this. You were the one running single player mode SC with wine. I could be wrong though. I don't play SC anymore because I understand almost everything about that game which includes playing legit and hacking. StarCraft was so easy to hack which makes the game boring since I usually don't lose playing legit against a hacker. My knowledge about counter strategies and timing will surpass most newbie hackers who have no idea of what I'm doing even though they have a maphack.

The level we are talking about is knowledge. How are people with more knowledge than you losers? It is because we can make so much more money than you? You should have read the thread before assuming it was about cheating.

Raven wrote:It is because we have make so much more money than you?

Now where did you get that from?

Samppa wrote:

Raven wrote:It is because we have make so much more money than you?

Now where did you get that from?

It was a typing mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.

Raven wrote:Cheating is only considered cheating if you get caught.

Now that's the lame attitude of a cheater, lack of integrity.

Raven wrote:I don't need to cheat since I don't play. The point is being able to have the knowledge to understand how a cheat could work. It is mostly about security and not cheating.

I would think perhaps a different title then would be more effective.

Raven wrote:Someone like yourself would use a cheat to play the game if you were able to leech the hacks.

Not in your lifetime, in fact I regularly submit cheats to PunkBuster, thus I have had ample opportunity to use them all, however I have enough integrity to prevent such luser behavior on my part.

Raven wrote:I suppose that is what you are meaning when you say "You mean down to your level, don't you? Cheating is for LUSERS!" I wouldn't have the time for that. That is why I move on to more advanced code.

Using them yourself or coding them for others to use, either way, lack of integrity.

Raven wrote:I used to play StarCraft like yourself.

I have NEVER played StarCraft, nor would I probably EVER be interested, for three reasons, I'm not a space nut, I run Linux fulltime and I don't tend to support games without a native Linux client.

Raven wrote:I believe we had a conversation about this.

Conversations between you and the mouse in your pocket should be kept confidential, unless the mouse agrees otherwise, be kind to mice.

Raven wrote:You were the one running single player mode SC with wine. I could be wrong though.

I'll bet it's habit forming too, lack of integrity, wrong, what ever you want to call it.

Raven wrote:I don't play SC anymore because I understand almost everything about that game which includes playing legit and hacking.

I'm willing to bet you understand more about the latter than the former.

Raven wrote:StarCraft was so easy to hack

Only people with no integrity would really know.

Raven wrote:which makes the game boring since I usually don't lose playing legit against a hacker. My knowledge about counter strategies and timing will surpass most newbie hackers who have no idea of what I'm doing even though they have a maphack.

That's the part they just never get.

Raven wrote:The level we are talking about is knowledge. How are people with more knowledge than you losers?

People who make assumtions about others that they don't know are lusers, people who place importance on trivial things which require a severe lack of integrity to even have a desire to know about are lusers.

Raven wrote:It is because we can make so much more money than you? You should have read the thread before assuming it was about cheating.

I think you are trying to defend yourself when you were never attacked though your posts have done nothing more than confirm your attitude toward cheating and your lack of integrity.

B.T.W. though if your such a big time Windows programmer and make so much money at it, then why do you post things like this?:

Raven wrote:

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http://www.rootkit.com/

This is a great place to learn more about windows coding. I am currently trying to learn how to write hook functions. Does anyone have experience with this?

http://forums.phoenix-hosting.org/viewtopic.php?t=2685

Probably because your not, hmmmm.

Hook functions are used to create game cheats, not secure games.

Some of those questions have been answered already..

callihn wrote:Hook functions are used to create game cheats, not secure games.

This shows how much you know about this topic. Yes, hooking functions are used to create cheats. Now, think outside the box. What do you think security systems do with these hooks?

The answer is obvious. Hooking functions are used to create game cheats, and secure games. These functions are also used in Anti-Virus programs to secure operating systems.

nProtect GameGuard, one of the world's largest gaming security systems, is a rootkit and a rootkit detection program. I believe this information is enough to say how you have no idea of what you are talking about.

As far as "lack of integrity", I can only see how you lack this virtue. You assume I am a cheater because I know how to cheat. I am not a cheater since I don't play. I am just knowledgeable because I can understand how it is done.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity

Integrity comprises the personal inner sense of "wholeness" deriving from honesty and consistent uprightness of character. The etymology of the word relates it to the Latin adjective integer (whole, complete). Evaluators, of course, usually assess integrity from some point of view, such as that of a given ethical tradition or in the context of an ethical relationship.

Basically, a word based on ethics.

callihn wrote:Not in your lifetime, in fact I regularly submit cheats to PunkBuster, thus I have had ample opportunity to use them all, however I have enough integrity to prevent such luser behavior on my part.

You stated how you used cheats and also submitted them to PunkBuster. This is what I call "lack of integrity". You leeched someone's hard work, used it to cheat, and submitted it without permission. The trainer maker should be able to submit this work without your help. In the coder's eyes, you are the leecher who takes credit for other people's hard work.

callihn wrote:Using them yourself or coding them for others to use, either way, lack of integrity.

I don't use them myself, and my hacks are private meaning they were never released to anyone. They were created in the first place because some people like to learn. Someone like yourself would need spoon feeding. I can already see your lack of knowledge in your posts.

Samppa wrote:Some of those questions have been answered already..

Yes, I agree which is why I pointed out his "lack of knoeledge". Some people seem to only know how to write, and unable to read.

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