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Sephy wrote:Hack is extremely vague. That's what I meant. I don't know if you're interested in being kewl and 1337 and use the game's console to type commands, making trainers, editing savegames with a hex editor, making no-cd cracks, using lame 3rd-party add-ons like aimbots or programming a game from scratch (Yes, programming something is also considered "hacking" a game. Linus Torvalds is a hacker, for example.).

We can't guess what goes in your mind. I said the question was stupid, not that "hacking games" is stupid.

There is no such thing as a stupid question. The only thing stupid was your comment since it has nothing to do with this thread. As far as I'm concerned, your comments will be ignored since they don't make much sense. This thread is for people who know something about game hacking, and posting their experiences with what they did.

Raven wrote:(...) The only thing stupid was your comment since it has nothing to do with this thread. As far as I'm concerned, your comments will be ignored since they don't make much sense. This thread is for people who know something about game hacking, and posting their experiences with what they did.

Dude, you didn't get the first two hints (and obviously didn't even bother to read any of the links I posted), so let me put this in words that even you can understand.

Define "game hacking".

Jesus Christ.

Sephy wrote:

Raven wrote:(...) The only thing stupid was your comment since it has nothing to do with this thread. As far as I'm concerned, your comments will be ignored since they don't make much sense. This thread is for people who know something about game hacking, and posting their experiences with what they did.

Dude, you didn't get the first two hints (and obviously didn't even bother to read any of the links I posted), so let me put this in words that even you can understand.

Define "game hacking".

Jesus Christ.

Just give it up. I don't need to define "game hacking". The thread is suppose to be open to any type of "game hacking" discussion. That's why the question was so general. Stop spamming my thread.

Hacking A Game, Whats The Point?

The only time i would hack a game is when.. ermm... when... i want something out of it.

Jordyboy wrote:Hacking A Game, Whats The Point?

The only time i would hack a game is when.. ermm... when... i want something out of it.

The point for me is to gain more knowledge about the type of hacking it requires. The knowledge is already worth more than something you could want out of it. People like you wouldn't care about it since you want something out of it. You wouldn't be able to understand the basic concepts to develop a logical mindset.

Game hacking is much easy-fied on games whose companies have been generous enough to release the source code, like the age-old Quake 3. Did anyone else hear that they are going to release the source code for F.E.A.R?

Why bother hacking a game? Sure, it makes it good for you, but it absolutely wrecks the gaming/playing experience for everyone playing with you. Hacking games it totally pointless, all you need is a little practive playing the game and you'll get really good at it, so you don't need hacks. Try it sometime.

zeep wrote:Why bother hacking a game? Sure, it makes it good for you, but it absolutely wrecks the gaming/playing experience for everyone playing with you. Hacking games it totally pointless, all you need is a little practive playing the game and you'll get really good at it, so you don't need hacks. Try it sometime.

Hacking games isn't really pointless. Hacks mostly are used as trainers to advance your skill level. There is no point in hacking if you are just trying to win in the game. Hacking anything requires advance concepts. Some people are just too lazy to learn logic. They just want to win the game. Game over. That's what you see when you win or lose.

Using hacks to increase skill level is cheating though..


And as for saying that people who do not wish to hack games are not hungry for, or do not have, logic is just.. err.. wtf?



btw, it's a game, you're supposed to win or lose.

Samppa wrote:Using hacks to increase skill level is cheating though..


And as for saying that people who do not wish to hack games are not hungry for, or do not have, logic is just.. err.. wtf?



btw, it's a game, you're supposed to win or lose.

Cheating is concerning the game. I say skill level meaning knowledge about how functions work in an operating system. This is more of a programming thread, and not a cheating thread. Yes, people who do not understand how the game works can not cheat. Understanding how functions work in a game requires logic. I understand people play games for fun. I don't have time to waste time like that. I would only play a game to learn.

Well okay, I get your point. I didn't read the whole topic so I just posted based on the first few posts... stupid me. Anyway I haven't hacked any games and I don't plan on it, unless it's a really small one and I don't care really about it, or to hack it to find holes and help the develepor fix it.

zeep wrote:Well okay, I get your point. I didn't read the whole topic so I just posted based on the first few posts... stupid me. Anyway I haven't hacked any games and I don't plan on it, unless it's a really small one and I don't care really about it, or to hack it to find holes and help the develepor fix it.

I used to hack this game called MapleStory. It is a very simple game. If you played Super Mario Brothers, you'll know what I am talking about. It is a 2D Scroll type game. So far, none of the hacks have been patched. I don't think they ever will patch the hacks. nProtect GameGuard is now being used to protect the game from hackers. GameGuard will disconnect you from the game when a "hack" gets detected. I suppose this is the patch. Some experienced programmers should know security software doesn't have any type of "whitelist" to use. Instead, they use a "blacklist" to block known hacks. The logic comes in here to bypass these security tools.

I've played MapleStory, and so did my friend. The leveling is soo slow in that game, and I only played it for a few days because I didn't like it at all. I'd hack that game.


Do you like cheese?

Hacking is silly!

zeep wrote:I've played MapleStory, and so did my friend. The leveling is soo slow in that game, and I only played it for a few days because I didn't like it at all. I'd hack that game.


Do you like cheese?

I am playing around with MapleStory to make bypass hacks for GameGuard's Rev. I used to play the game, but I don't play anymore. I've been banned several times.

Yes, it does take a long time to level in that game. I leveled from 1 to 70 in 3 days. That was when the Zakum Jump Quest was around. I hacked monsters from level 1 to 50, and then from level 50 to 70 I hacked the Zakum Jump Quest with a private spawn hack macro. Two seconds to complete all three stages. Too bad they patched the Zakum Jump Quest by not giving experience anymore.

I am only interested in the bypass now so that's why I quit playing the game. I use MapleStory's Gameguard as a learning tool so I can be able to bypass one of the main gaming security systems in the market. Cheat Engine was a really awesome project to boost my programming knowledge. I compiled an undetected Cheat Engine 5.2.82 that bypassed GameGuard Rev 778.

At Rev 770, GameGuard is now monitoring debug registers by using GetThreadContext. I am now working on a new undetected Cheat Engine 5.3.201 to bypass GameGuard. I will also need to learn what a kernel function hook looks like in C++ since the driver for Cheat Engine was coded in C++. I'll bypass once I can learn to hook GetThreadContext to return drx = 0 when I'm using debug registers if the processname is "MapleStory.exe".