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Also not everyone will drive while stoned

That's what I said. Some people will though.

not everyone gets the same side effects as you did

That's what I said, not everyone will be the same as you or your friend.

posing little or no threat to public health and safety.

The study loses it's credibility when that is stated, there is no knowing what will happen when multitudes of people begin to use it.

That's true you'll never know what's going to happen, but it's still a harmless plant if you know how to use it, but the thing is that people don't smoke it coz it's healthy and harmless or anything, they smoke it coz they're friends do, and their friends are cool and they want to be cool also and that's that, nobody gives a rats ass what the plant is really about, they smoke it for fun and pleasure.

In a way I agree with your statement but on some points I dissagree. Give me one proff that somebody died becouse of excessive smoking marihuana and I rest my case

Greetings.

knedl wrote:it's still a harmless plant if you know how to use it

One marijuana joint has 18 times more carcinogens then one cigarette.

nighthawk wrote:

knedl wrote:it's still a harmless plant if you know how to use it

One marijuana joint has 18 times more carcinogens then one cigarette.

true but not all carcinogens lead to cancer usually you have to have prolonged exposure to them to do so. The occasionlay joint is probably less dangerous than walking down a busy street breathing in car fumes.

roogog wrote:

nighthawk wrote:

knedl wrote:it's still a harmless plant if you know how to use it

One marijuana joint has 18 times more carcinogens then one cigarette.

true but not all carcinogens lead to cancer usually you have to have prolonged exposure to them to do so. The occasionlay joint is probably less dangerous than walking down a busy street breathing in car fumes.

I agree with roogog, the simple fact of the matter is it's harmless it's just the people that think it's deadly, it's more likely to get hit by a bus then die becouse of smoking weed, I should know i've been hit by a car lol

Greetz.

I agree with roogog, the simple fact of the matter is it's harmless it's just the people that think it's deadly, it's more likely to get hit by a bus then die becouse of smoking weed, I should know i've been hit by a car lol

I didn't exactly say it was harmless... just less harmless than some other producers of carcinogens

Also people have crashed cars, been run over (not you i presume) and had accidnts when under the influence of weed. However many people have had accidents, crashed cars etc under the influence of drink, perscription drugs, tiredness, etc etc.

A substance Harm level is a relative term. Depends on the individual, the situation he/she is in, the tasks he/she are performing, body mass, genetic make-up, tollerance to name but a few.

I think that it must be legalized like in Holland .
The "gouvernment" will managed it and will get profit to it and people who want to smoke will also get their pleasure.
Also to make the dealer stop seeling s*** stuff.
I think I can be a good idea but must be control.

Well, why not? I have also other idea, If the goverment sell this kind of staffs, the country will be even more rich.

Personally, I think it should be allowed. In vancouver, Canada, they have this program for druggies called "NAOMI". It's to help druggies get off the drug, and it's worked, quite well too. The program prescribes drugs and hands out clean needles and picks up used and dirty ones. However, the program is coming to an end due to 2010 olympics, I'm quite curious as to if the druggies will stay off the drugs. Mayor Sullivan wants the druggies out by 2010.

Erm.. First you say it should be allowed..
Then you continue about a program that helps druggies off drugs.

Eh?

nighthawk wrote:

knedl wrote:it's still a harmless plant if you know how to use it

One marijuana joint has 18 times more carcinogens then one cigarette.

link please...

zogo wrote:link please...

I would if it were an online source, but it was a printed article in our debate tub last year. Ignore it then?

no!even though weeds are herbs... they're natural. they just grew.... and they're part of the planet called earth... but in view of using it, I think it's not good because of the long term effects.. Imagine this, if it would be legalized, how can you accept the fact that your children who are 10yrs old or under are smoking weed.. how would we accept that?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

For one, how dare our govt. tell us what to put into our bodies? As long as we aren't harming others, who cares?

Two, alcohol is more dangerous than weed and cigarettes are FAR more dangerous than both of those. Yet they are legal. Total BS. How many have died directly from weed? NONE. That's because you can't OD on weed.

http://www.news-medical.net/?id=18122

Three, hemp and hemp seeds have so many uses, such as fuel, that it's insane to ban weed/hemp. Oh wait, the big oil corps wouldn't like to lose their precious money.

Four, ban something and it creates an instant black market and gangs. Remember prohibition? They made bathtub moonshine which is pretty dangerous. Legalize it and companies will make safe drugs (minus pharmaceuticals which are absolutely horrible and disgusting).

So, YES it should be legal.

For those who argue our kids will be stoned all the time, here's some news. They can get it no matter if it's legal or not! Make it legal and it loses some of it's "coolness" factor. I bet we'd see less people using drugs once they're legal, like in the Netherlands.