Should Pot/Weed/Marijuana Be Legalized In US/Canada?

Have a topic or current event in the news that you would like to discuss?

Should Pot/Weed/Marijuana Be Legalized In US/Canada?

Poll ended at Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:04 am

Yes!
7
63%
No!
4
36%
 
Total votes : 11

Postby Tim on Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:33 am

I can't really be bothered writing an essay length reply to this but I do feel like voicing my general opinion.

As far as alcohol and smoking goes, I have no issue with either being legal. Alcohol is generally pretty fine for you as long as you know your personal limits and aren't stupid about having it. Smoking may be bad for you, but in this day and age everyone is educated to at least the basic issues with it, if they want to smoke and destroy their lungs and such, let them. Although as smoking can also be harmful to others, I like the way the Australian government is going about banning it in various public places like train stations (in the underground ones where the air is stagnant, it is awful to be near a smoker).

As for illicit drugs like cannabis, ecstacy, speed, etc. I believe that they should remain banned, overall they have worse side effects immediately and generally there is no "safe" ammount. Some may argue that with some people that it is fine, it gives them a bit of a high but they are still in control however, with most people this does not appear to be the case. Others may argue that it goes with smoking, most people are aware of what they do and it should be their choice, I don't believe this to be the case, illicit drugs have much worse shortterm effects and if you do get "peer pressured" into trying them then it can turn out significantly worse with alot less consumption (ok, you don't really consume cigarettes, but you know what I mean).
User avatar
Tim
root
root
 
Posts: 736
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:31 am
Location: Australia

:(

Postby snakez on Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:05 pm

say NO to drugs...it is the way to death Sad
snakez
Newbie
Newbie
 
Posts: 17
Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:20 pm
Location: Latvia

Postby womack on Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:30 pm

Marijuana (Pot Weed Grass) should be legalized. Marijuana is less harmful than alcohol, that’s a fact. Marijuana should be regulated the same as alcohol.
If u can pick a tomato and eat it...u should be able to pick a plant and smoke it.

If weed was legalized I believe its position as a gateway drug would be eliminated
i'm too lame to write a signature !
womack
Contributer
Contributer
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:01 pm

Postby Samppa on Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:01 pm

Another aspect of it is though that more people will experience how crazy drugs can make you feel, and might want to get even more high, moving on to harder drugs.

Perhaps.
(\__/)
(='.'=) This is RomMaster's Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your
(" )_(" ) signature to help him gain world domination.
Samppa
Phoenix Veteran
Phoenix Veteran
 
Posts: 744
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:00 am
Location: Finland

Postby roogog on Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:24 pm

Samppa wrote:Another aspect of it is though that more people will experience how crazy drugs can make you feel, and might want to get even more high, moving on to harder drugs.

Perhaps.

The vast majority of drug users don't progress on to hard drugs, they use recreationally for a period of their life then get fed up, bored, or get other priorities other than drugs.
roogog
Contributer
Contributer
 
Posts: 64
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:48 pm

Postby womack on Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:54 am

roogog , i agree with you Razz
i'm too lame to write a signature !
womack
Contributer
Contributer
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:01 pm

Postby Samppa on Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:45 am

Because that many people aren't trying it.

Make it legal and you get a vast userbase, and obviously with that an increased progression to harder drugs. Potentially like.
(\__/)
(='.'=) This is RomMaster's Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your
(" )_(" ) signature to help him gain world domination.
Samppa
Phoenix Veteran
Phoenix Veteran
 
Posts: 744
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:00 am
Location: Finland

Postby womack on Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:10 am

samppa , if it is legalized the % of people moving hader drugs will decrease!!
i'm too lame to write a signature !
womack
Contributer
Contributer
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:01 pm

Postby Samppa on Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:15 am

Yes, the % will probably decrease, but the number of people moving on to harder drugs will (or might, who knows) increase. You shouldn't trust percentages too much.

In case you don't know what I mean, take this example: There are 10 people using weed, and 1 moves on to harder drugs. That's 10% moving on to harder drugs. Then, it's legalized, and 100 people start using it, and 5 people move on to harder drugs. That's 5% moving on to harder drugs. The percentage will be lower in the latter case even though more people move on to harder drugs.
(\__/)
(='.'=) This is RomMaster's Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your
(" )_(" ) signature to help him gain world domination.
Samppa
Phoenix Veteran
Phoenix Veteran
 
Posts: 744
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:00 am
Location: Finland

Postby womack on Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:32 pm

Yea!! sampa .. i got it now.. i was mistaken. Laughing
i'm too lame to write a signature !
womack
Contributer
Contributer
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:01 pm

Postby knedl on Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:17 pm

I've always hated discusions like this but I've always replyed.

The problem in the world today is that people think that everything kills you, sure heroin,crack and shit like that does but I've never seen an example in anywhere in the world that someone died becouse he smoked grass.

You gotta understand that the only reason why countries don't leglize weed becouse it would change the medicine as we know it today, aspirines would be the thing of the past, coz if you grow your own weed at home, not sprayed or anything it's more healthier than anyother pill you'll get at the hospital, plus it hasn't got any side-effects except that your .. well .. "high", like the aspirine who has if i'm not mistaken around 10 side-effects. I'm not saying legalize weed just don't make such a deal about it if someone smokes it, and don't give away such lame punishments if the police catch you smoking it, i know here in slovenia if you have weed that is just for you (counted as a blunt not a whole killo) you can have it and you can smoke but just not in a public place.

For other drugs i don't know what to say, i've never tried anything further than weed and probably won't, i've seen people/friends die becouse of "overdose" and find it lame to take "hard-drugs". The police and the goverment should chase those drug addicts with horse,heroin,coke,ect., not those who carry weed.

Greets
Kdo?
knedl
Contributer
Contributer
 
Posts: 65
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:38 pm

Postby Samppa on Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:28 pm

Another angle is if you drive under the influence of a drug, the methods for testing it are few, and those that exist are money and time consuming.
Even that small point is enough to keep it off the shelves.

As well, I can't imagine myself smoking weed instead of taking an aspirin at work.
(\__/)
(='.'=) This is RomMaster's Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your
(" )_(" ) signature to help him gain world domination.
Samppa
Phoenix Veteran
Phoenix Veteran
 
Posts: 744
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:00 am
Location: Finland

Postby knedl on Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:53 pm

Driving under the influence of weed won't even get you on the road and there's a very good reason why, not becouse you know your gonna crash coz your not going to unless your a dumb driver, to stop you from driving there is the fright of the police so you wont get a ticket and that's all, i've driven with my friend when he was drunk and stoned, and he still knew what he was doing, he was driving straight and with normal speed so we didn't crash or anything.

It's stupid to blame drugs on this matter, if you smoke and go driving who's fault is it? And there's one more thing I don't understand, I don't know about any of you but for those I know who have something against drugs have never smoked at all, so I don't get it where you get this stuff that weed kills? Have you been reading or has your mom and dad been telling you about it?

I know i've smoked and my family did too, we all tried except I continiue and have never broken a nail becouse of weed, and never have I got in trouble becouse if it, mostly becouse I smoke it home and not in public places like bars or infront of school like some "dudes" do.

Greets.
Kdo?
knedl
Contributer
Contributer
 
Posts: 65
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:38 pm

Postby Samppa on Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:56 pm

So you're saying people shouldn't be penalized for driving under the influence of anything because they in fact know what they're doing?
The last time I smoked my reaction time was way below normal and my vision jerked around a lot. I had trouble controlling the power of my movements etc. That has happened often, and I would not be fit to drive. I wouldn't go driving, but some people will for whatever reasons.
I have also been a passenger in a car driven by a drunk, and he hadn't even taken that much. We were on the wrong side of the road at one time, and the driver didn't even notice. It was funny while drunk, but the following morning it didn't seem so haha anymore. It wasn't that great when we got rightly pulled over either.

Not everyone will do the same as you, not everyone will react the same way you will, not everyone will behave the way you do.
(\__/)
(='.'=) This is RomMaster's Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your
(" )_(" ) signature to help him gain world domination.
Samppa
Phoenix Veteran
Phoenix Veteran
 
Posts: 744
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:00 am
Location: Finland

Postby knedl on Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:40 pm

Also not everyone will drive while stoned, not everyone will drive with a stoned driver and furthermore not everyone gets the same side effects as you did, I'm only saying stop blaming weed for all the stupid things that people do, if you crash while stoned it's your own fault, if you get pulled over your fault again, no matter what you think or say that's how it is.

It's like you walk home drunk and beat your 7 year old and then blame it on the booze, it's stupid.

Greetings.

And to know i'm not bullshitin you:
Of all the thousands of medicinal and psychoactive drugs known to earthlings, cannabis is by far the most extensively studied. Science has answered most of the questions put to it about marijuana. Indeed, science has answered these questions over and over again, generation after generation, always coming to more or less the same conclusions: The drug is very enjoyable, often beneficial, medically useful, and remarkably harmless even when overused, posing little or no threat to public health and safety.
Kdo?
knedl
Contributer
Contributer
 
Posts: 65
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:38 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Serious Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron