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My views for legalized Marijuana are as it has just as many
legitament perposes as non. It has the same affects as
achocol does and achocol isn't legal is it?

Err, I'm sure you meant alcohol isn't illegal, instead of alcohol being not legal.

I would say no, since the long-term effects are still unknown, and it might be pretty bad for you in the long run.

bwolf wrote:My views for legalized Marijuana are as it has just as many
legitament perposes as non. It has the same affects as
achocol does and achocol isn't legal is it?

When we look to the standards set by alcohol and cigarettes, sure it should be legalized regardless of the health issues. But, in my opinion the only reason cigarettes and alchohol isn't illegalized is not because they're good, or not as bad, but because they're so entrenched in the culture/citizens.

Try taking away the beer from a country. Whomever tried that would not be reelected.

Every person has the personal right to choose what they do or not do. I'm a smoker, and I know that it's not healthy for me, still my choice. As far as other substances, marijuana is legal in some countries and not here in North America / Canada. I think the government would leaglize it if they could find a way to tax it the same way that they tax alcohol and tabacco.

The cigaretts and the alcohol are legar for cosuming just because thew were too popular when nobody cared if something isn't healthy. Also the production of these is legal, so you can make money of it.

One question: Why only in US and Canada ... here we have people from many countries.

People did care whether something was healthy or not, they just didn't have a clue what could be.

Also, why do people need substances to make their heads go woozy?

people who smoke's weed that i know arent stressed thats one point but why the goverment dont want to legalise it its because they make more money crackin down on crime that's what i think

that doesnt even make sense illfusion, unless they're selling the stuff themselves (which, no matter how skeptical I am about the government, I doubt). They could make shitload of money by imposing high taxes - and just like cigarettes, people will buy it regardless of the price.

Having said that, I'm against legalization. The US government was retarded enough to ban it for no real reason whatsoever, and I'd hate to see people having to pay more for weed just so the tax could suplement the budget for some preemptive strike. Besides, having a traditionally conservative government, I doubt it'd ever happen, at least in the US. Take a look at the Golden State :) We have a medical marijuana system in California, a system that generally works (but is often abused as well). Under the medical marijuana law, med.marijuana license allows it's carrier to grow weed, smoke weed, buy it (in cannabis clubs), and even sell it (to cannabis clubs). So what happens? A middle-aged dude who supplied his friends (also legal card holders) got arrested after the federal government raided his place and found a bunch of plants, plants he was legally allowed to grow under the state law. All the protests didn't work, though our brainless governor didn't help much. After that crap, I stopped renewing my card.

Long-term side effects... How long a term? It can't be more devastating than booze. I'd rather see alcohol banned than weed legalized, but i'm pretty sure neither will ever happen.

I know people who smoke cigarettes or don't smoke anything who aren't stressed.

And there's no proof marijuana wouldn't be more devastating than booze.

zogo wrote:that doesnt even make sense illfusion, unless they're selling the stuff themselves (which, no matter how skeptical I am about the government, I doubt).

Actually they do make quite a lot from drug bust. Somewhere in the millions, I'm not sure of an exact figure. Right now I can't research it since the school's filter blocks anything drug-related.

All drugs and i include alcohol, nicotine, caffine etc are basically just ways of trying to reduce anxiety. They are all equally bad for you over long periods of time and in large doses. In small doses and occasionaly they can have many beneficial uses.

As long as people have anxieties then there will be a need for some sort of drug. Legalizing or making them illegal is a pointless task as the threat of the law is not strong enough to counter the fears, worries, anxieties or indeed the pleasure gained from using these products.

Some people say that soft drugs like cannabis can lead to hard drugs. In a few cases yes thsi is true but not for the vast amjority. In fact THE gateway drug is nicotine. People who smoke cigarettes and then go onto try other drugs (including alcohol) have a much greater chance of becoming addicted or a heavy user than those who never smoked before trying drugs.

roogog wrote:All drugs and i include alcohol, nicotine, caffine etc are basically just ways of trying to reduce anxiety. They are all equally bad for you over long periods of time and in large doses. In small doses and occasionaly they can have many beneficial uses.

Caffeine reduces anxiety? You've definitely mixed up your drugs :P Not all drugs are equally as destructive--would you say the heroin or cocaine are in the same category of addictiveness as caffeine? You can get addicted to crack or heroin by using it once, and I think you can die from injecting heroin once.

roogog wrote:As long as people have anxieties then there will be a need for some sort of drug. Legalizing or making them illegal is a pointless task as the threat of the law is not strong enough to counter the fears, worries, anxieties or indeed the pleasure gained from using these products.

It's not a "pointless task" to dissuade people from using drugs by enacting harsh penalties on people who use them. If you look on the internet at all the "stupid videos" sites, it's pretty obvious that humans are petty, ignorant creatures that don't think anything through--can you imagine what they'd do if there were even less incentive to "act responsibly"?

Caffine gives takers a "lift." They feel less drowsy, less fatigued, more capable of rapid and sustained intellectual effort. More able to take on the world, to banish the "early morning" blues. It is a stimulent and stimulents have the ability to make you feel a lot better than you actually are. Regular users can also become emotionally and mentally dependent upon their daily caffeine - they need it, like a crutch, which they feel they can't cope/perform/get by without it.
Off course caffine reduces anxiety. Remember there are many types of anxiety. It reduces certain types of anxieties but as with all drugs replaces them with other types some of which in the short term may be perversly beneficial but in the long term are detrimental.

Of course heroin and caffine don't have the same levels of addictiveness but the reasons for taking them can be very similar. Heroin is obviously much stronger and therefore much more destructive. And yes you can inject yourself with "bad" heroin and die but there are many cases of legal, prescribed drugs that have killed when taken only once. You are more likely to suffer if you are a heroin user though because of the lifestyle that goes with it, the people you have to associate with to get it and the destructive nature of the drug and the possibilty of infection due to the way t is taken. Add to that the possibility of it being cut with other chemicals which can be even more destructive and you have a true lethal cocktail.
Generally though people don't become junkies overnight, they have to have the "junkie/addict" mentatlity, genetic make-up, cultural make-up, or whatever causes them to become so (jury is still out on what makes some people more likely to become self destructve in this way while others don't). Not everyone who takes heroin becomes a junkie, just as not everyone who takes cannibis goes onto take harder drugs.

The vast majority of people do act responsibly but the threat of the law or prison has no effect whatsoever on some groups of people...and these are, granted a big one, still a minority. In fact you can often get more, and better drugs in prison than you can out on the street. A user caught up in the destructive patterns of extreme drug abuse doesn't even think twice about the fact he may go to jail, it is the least of his/her worries.
Better education is what is required to help people make the choice not to use in the first place when they are at a young age. Better understanding of the social economic reasons why people think the only way out is through drugs and offering them a better choice.
I have a slightly more optimistic veiw of people and yes some groups are petty, ignorant creatues but it is up to the majority of people who arn't to lend a helping hand to try and make everyones life better....ohh i went all hippy there

A user caught up in the destructive patterns of extreme drug abuse doesn't even think twice about the fact he may go to jail, it is the least of his/her worries.

What about those not caught up in the destructive patterns of extreme drug abuse - wouldn't they think twice?

Those not caught up in that destructive cycle are probably only recreational drug users. And there are many of them who use drugs for fun, and can control it. They know it is illegal but still do it...so i'd say no.