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1sy8 wrote:Agreed but then on their old days, people tend to behave like children.

he's 20 just like me

I'm using Opera as well...
Funny think, I often meet people that say they use opera as well caus it's one of the best browsers, but nevertheless, I often find it only in the "other" category in most stats =(
Can't remember any urls right now, so you just have to believe me

CerealK wrote:

1sy8 wrote:Agreed but then on their old days, people tend to behave like children.

he's 20 just like me

Ok but the description fits well an old guy

Mozilla Firefox: it's simple, it's free - it's the BEST!

I'm an FF man meself. Tried opera once, but diddnt like the UI. o course, ill use anything gecko-based

My choice is Firefox. It is stable and usefull.

I use Opera and Microsoft IE. Opera is the fastest and safest and thats why i am using it. I use IE because it is the only browser that can go to windows update.

i use both ie and firefox, depending if i can be bothered to click firefox.exe on my desktop lol (i cant set as default cos family comp), i like firefox for the security and also the x-mod

Netscape has a good concept of twin-engines (FF & IE), but it's still kinda buggy in some aspects

Well i was addicted to Internet Explorer sometime ago... Until i discover Firefox XD....

I've experimented also the IE 7 Beta from Microsoft... Well ... a Microsoft's firefox version, with tab navigation and all... but only problem is... those skins and decoratives are really heavy, so i prefer Firefox..

http://www.foxie.com/ <- never experimented yet

The only problem is the development of Cascading StyleSheet for all those navigators... IE and Firefox doesn't accept each other... so its really hard, and the new IE7 will avoid the CSS Hacks.. ... Lets use Tables... haha

Bye

I really like firefox. Probably out of all of the browsers - opera is the best. It is the most web standards compliant. For designing websites though, you really have to have all 3 so that you can make sure the majority of your users can read your web site.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1 ... 855,00.asp

Chejo wrote:I use IE because it is the only browser that can go to windows update.

Actually you can use the plugin IE Tab in Firefox to access Windows Update. Or maybe just sending another HTTP Header, but I havn't tried that yet.

My favorite browser would be Firefox, it's relatively safe and it follows standards. IE doesn't, and it's quite unsecure. Though firefox is bloated, i like it more then Opera, even though FF uses much more system resources, but Operas lack of pluginability, and being unable to block things other then images, makes me use FF instead.

Scorch wrote:use the plugin IE Tab in Firefox to access Windows Update. Or maybe just sending another HTTP Header, but I havn't tried that yet.

No, fooling around with your User Agent string won't help because Windows Update requires Active X. The IE Tab is your 'best' option. Basically it's a nessisary evil for windows users. That's what they get for using Windows. Fortunatly Vista is moving away from the retarded usage of Active X for that stuff.

trick wrote:No, fooling around with your User Agent string won't help because Windows Update requires Active X.

Yes, I was a little uncertain about the User Agent. I actually asked about it today and the evilness of Active X crossed my mind.

The most problematic thing that I've run across with IE using Active X is when programming with AJAX, since you have to do two checks all the time. One for IE, and one for <everything else>.

Yes - ie programming is annoying. One style sheet for IE and one style sheet for the "others" lol