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No. but because sadly, most linux users are asshats. According to THIS guy

Interesting read.

Well, yeah, he does have a good point there ... On the other hand, a lot of people are assholes if they think they can get away with it. Especially on IRC-type environments.

Seriously though, go RTFM n00b!

i've told a few people to rm some things, but nothing major. i am kind of an asshole. it's fun.

Becouse m$ is one of the biggest and the richest company on the world, and have something that is call "MONOPOLY on market" Simple as that.

Sorry to say, but I really have to agree here. There are a lot of people with terrible attitudes out there.

I will say this though: a portion of how you are recieved is how you phrase your questions in the first place. Admit you're an idiot, (even if you aren't) and they're less likely to call you one.

*huggles his nickserv registration of LinuxDolt over on FreeNode, since it saves him from some extra typing*

shadowlabs wrote:No. but because sadly, most linux users are asshats. According to THIS guy

Interesting read.

Yes, linux snobs are a problem. I would have been a linux user several years ago if not because of that breed of linux user. However, I saw how crappy windows was and wanted to switch and use something new, so I kept going despite the snobs. However, I do have to say that anyone can fly off the handle when it comes to being asked seemingly ignorant linux questions. I actually had a guy asking me the other day to give him an entire manual on kernel compiling that he could have easily gotten off google. I flew off the handle but appologized an hour or so later. So, if this happens to you, an appology can go a long way towards getting newbies back into linux.

Yes, now it's went from RTFM to Google, with the automatic assumption of course that the user didn't even try and they wanted to let the whole world know they are some clueless nitwit by posting their trivial question to a forum. It's really sad.

callihn wrote:Yes, now it's went from RTFM to Google, with the automatic assumption of course that the user didn't even try and they wanted to let the whole world know they are some clueless nitwit by posting their trivial question to a forum. It's really sad.

Actually, most newbs don't even remember to check Google, because it's easier to ask someone, than to go look for stuff yourself.

well i think its mainly becuase its what we are used to using windows lets face it windows has been ¨user friendly¨(feel free to replace friendly with deadly) for more time than linux has so then it has had time to build a bigger userbase

i remember i used to be like that (an asshat) but ever since ive become more active in the opensource community ive gained more pacience to serve and hlep people better, you want linux to catch on? then dont ask what linux can do for you BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR LINUX!

no I don`t think that linux users are asshats { even the fact i`m still using Windows} especially in phoenix community..always when i ask something in most cases about stupid things {how to do this, how to do that} I always ger\t anwers...and in Bulgaria linux society ..always helps because of the fact -they what go enlarge the whole linux commnunity.

And I think that Win is more popular in the wolrd because of the monopol they made on all things...they have cotracts with others country`s goverments and the whole educational system is based on micrtosoft products...and educatiiting systems are based on windows..and thats why at home most studets have win, exept these ones who are more indivitial and want to try something different.
In Bulgaria is like this, and suppose everywhere else is like this

m4rk0 wrote:Becouse m$ is one of the biggest and the richest company on the world, and have something that is call "MONOPOLY on market" Simple as that.

Yes, but its nice to see that more and more people are using linux and not just linux more and more are using open source they are developing great GPL software.
The last shit that i hear for micro$oft is that they wont to put patent on "dubble mouse click"... no comment!
Its brobably not a news for you guys but...

http://counter.li.org/ <= The Linux counter !

Not everyone has the 'ability' (feel free to replace it with IQ) to become a linux user ,there are some users who don`t even understand windows ,how do you exept them to understand linux?

I myself dicouraged a few people to use linux ,because they are incapabile of understanding linux ,I had experiences for example ,someone wanted to try it ,because he heard that it`s stable and secure ,but ,when he saw ,that you must have to open that big dark and scary terminal ,and type a few commands ,he changed his mind.Another was a girl ,who can`t even install a windows ,no how can I install an OS on his system ,where you actualy have to use the keyboard and type a few very hard commands ,like "./configure" "make" "make install"?

These people could never become linux users ,theyre mind is corrupted by windows.I mean the PC users knowlage looks like it`s permenant ,only theyre numbers are growing.Few years earlier ,even the windows users had the minimal knowlage of a computer ,especialy the ones that used dos before and not everyone had a computer ,those were the good old days ,when every windows user ,knew how to make a clean windows install ,and to protect against viruses ,now the fashion trend is to format the entire hard drive if it gets infected by a virus ,but an "avarage" PC user doesn`t even know how to install a windows XP ,wich boots from a CD and is installable with a few easy steps.

So do you expect these users who can`t even install a windows XP to use a linux?
I myself use linux for about two years ,before I used windows ,the distro that made me breake up with windows is ubuntu(kubuntu) ,it`s comunity is vast and the people are helpfull ,I never encountered snob people there.I talked with them on irc ,on the forum ,and my limits have vanished ,and I learned many things since ,but the most important thing is I never gave up ,most windows users give it up ,when they see how hard linux is.

So the conclusion is :
-not all people are able to use linux
-you have to choose the right comunity if you are realy able to undersand

I think so, maybe its not as easy to operate upon so...eventually coz of windows

Most linux distros are user friendly not idiot friendly.