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zogo wrote:Who are you to call 90% of computer users stupid?

I only said that Microsoft considers there users stupid.I never said they are!

zogo wrote:Whether Linux has made a big progress or not doesn't have much to do with the fact that it will never spread as widely as Windows. If you're honestly thinking it will, you're delusional. 90% of the Windows users have never heard of Linux, nor do they know what Linux is, and I doubt they care to find out.

It's not widely spread because compared to windows it's new. With time and I mean big time Linux will grow even more user friendly and even the average computer users will recognize its potential.Microsoft won't rule forever.

zogo wrote:I'm sorry, but whatever you say is not going to make me believe Linux is easier to use than Windows. I'll repeat - if it were that amazing and so much easier to use, and even free!, how come it has a menial portion of the market?

Because it's NEW! And people don't really trust free products.It's hard to believe for average people that the guys who make Linux are doing it by the
goodness of there hearth and they don't understand how do the companies pay the programmers and they don't trust it.Yet.

zogo wrote:As far as clicking vs. typing, are you serious? People don't like typing! People like clicking!

But clicking takes more time.And I don't think people who use there computers to do there work and are used to typing do mind typing a command if it gets there work done more faster.

zogo wrote:You cannot consider yourself an average computer user, and you cannot just assume so many people will change their minds and start thinking about you - because they won't.

But if the companies recognize the big money they can keep with installing linux to do the work on workstations and people will use it during work time they will soon recognize that its better , and install it in their home.

Have you ever used Linux ? Have you ever tryed it ? What distribution ?

I use linux cuz it is free, there are not many virii, and its stable. It beats windows, but for school i must use windows

I prefer linux.It's free, fast, stable, reliable.What else can sb ask.Of course there are some problems with compatibility but small ones

Why shuld i use windows when my Slackware 10.2 is stable, i have on it Quanta+, Ktorrent, Skype, ICQ, Xchat and all other things i need and i have install them as easy as on windows.
And the moust of all its free ....

Like someone says "Software is like sex is beter when its free "

Linux is better than Windows for me because i can set up my system in a few clicks (more like taps on keys) and in only 7-10 minutes. It literally beats even a Ghost image of a fresh win2k/xp installation (as in the time it takes). I just set up a base debian system and then run a script to set up all my applications. Given my internet speed, I download everything directly, so no later updates needet. Thus for comfort and speed for the same results (don't flame - im talking about office suite a browser a music player and such) i use linux. Also i just finished a knoppix remaster that fits in on a mini-cd and has all basic desktop apps (IMHO Feather linux and DSL are cool but they knock my eyes out with the xvesa server so i made my own with free86) so i dont even need to install anything... i just boot it to ram...

Bugs42 wrote:I dual boot Windows XP and Fedora Core 5 on my laptop.
I'd go strictly Linux, except for
1)all my favorite games are Windows only, along with the programs I need to code for F.I.R.S.T.
2)I can't get my wireless card working under Linux.

As Bugs said, I'd use Linux But I couldn't live with out photoshop, itunes and of course games! And hell...wireless cards, I've had 2 so far that haven't worked so given up on that for now... I'm duel booting with Fedora Core 4 and Windows XP on both my laptop and desktop. Been playing with Solaris 10 recently, but now using Centos at work (webhosting tech support )

I used to run debian for a while. But it was frustrating not to be able to use the windows software I used to use. For example there is no direct connect client that can even be compared to dc++ in linux.

Also I thought it was annoying that Linux wasn't compatible with NTFS. After a while I stopped booting to linux and only used windows, and then after a couple of weeks when I needed som more diskspace I just deleted linux.

Well, let me first start off by saying that linux, like every other operating system out there has it's shortcomings. My first reason for using linux is the fact that linux is probably the most powerful text based OS I've come across thus far, barring the original brands of unix that is. The reason I am going on about text and not GUIS is that I am totally blind. I use screen reading software to get around on the net and so on. Another reason I use linux is that, depending on the distro, it can be rock solid. I am running a debian sarge box who's uptime is just a little over a year now. And finally, I run linux because I have no respect for microsoft what so ever. Though, I do admit, I have a windows box in my possession. However, I am only using it because the web browsing in IE is just a tad better than lynx

NTFS is made by M$ to be only accesible from windows.

for those who said that you can`t create a modified xp chek out nlite ,it`s M$ approved.

I rearely use windows ,why is that?

I don`t want the FBI ,Bill Gates nor the BSA or any other wise guy organisation to see what webpages I visit and what I do.

I don`t like my system to freeze for no reason ,don`t give me the talk about bad hardware and scratched installation cds ,it simply gives you the Blue Screen Of Death ,and you can`t fix the error ,because all you get is massages like 'General Protection Fault' and you don`t know how exactly does windows works ,because it`s so closed source.

I like testing and using open source programs and games it`s fun and you can learn much ,to do that with windows is simply hell ,with linux it`s just a few commands.

I like to see that my Desktop OS (Kubuntu) is in constant improvement ,I always get updates ,no there not like windows updates ,these realy work ,you can "even" se what is your OS updating.

For those who think that I`m a zealot on a mission to convince every one on the world to use linux instead of windows I have one thing to say : if you`re happy with windows and it fits your needs ,it`s fine with me ,but if you are not ,and you want to use a developer OS ,you want an OS that you know how it works ,then you use linux.

btw ,someone wrote on this forum to me that I should make difference between server and desktop OS ,here is my point of view: the difference between the home windows edtiton and the server are just a few registry entrys and other simple things ,no real differences ,and a few days ago when I installed a windows XP media center if saw that it copied a file named iis.ini ,now that is a ridicolous thing if that`s what I tink it is ,why does a desktop OS would be in need of a webserver configuration file?not 100% sure that what I saw is what I think ,I didn`t investigate it cause I don`t realy care ,it just shows interesting aspects of windows ,btw ,try looking in your c:\windows\ folder ,you can see interesting and obsolete stuff there.

It really depends on how you use your box. You want to run a stable, secure server -- LINUX any day of the week.

I have my home LAN running off a beefy Ubuntu server. Works for me! and its free!

Gaming --> No questions that is Window's domain.

Usually i'll dual boot a Ubuntu/XP config just for the compatibility issues. To be fair, there are some excellent apps that only run on Windows (and vise-versa). YOu need to mix to get the best of both worlds!

Usually i'll dual boot a Ubuntu/XP config just for the compatibility issues. To be fair, there are some excellent apps that only run on Windows (and vise-versa). YOu need to mix to get the best of both worlds!

And probably the best thing to do.

Gaming --> No questions that is Window's domain.

There are lots of games for linux and most of them are free and open source ,for example there`s a game called freedroid ,it`s an rpg ,good graphics ,nice sound ,and you can even edit the games`s world while youre playing it.