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Prototype wrote:I use Linux because I feel more comfortable with it. Someone once told me that configuring Linux was a nightmare compared to Windows, but I'd have to strongly disaagree.

It took me 3 days to get Windows to not crash after I logged in (yes, 3), and it took me only a couple hours (at the most) to configure Linux.

I don't believe you, unless you're trying to use a pirated copy of winxp, or trying to install on a 5+ year old machine.

I've used Windows XP, and I have never, EVER managed to crash it. It's been runnning for the last 3 years flawlessly, despite my impatience and loads of useless pirated software.

As far as using Linux, I can't say I don't like it, but I can say I don't need it. For my basic needs, linux is useless.

Linux, because one... my Sound blaster card sounds WAY better on it, Two, It's free... so I don't have to worry about paying for a replacement OS if I muss it up too much... My favorite distros are Suse FC4 Knoppix Kubuntu Ubuntu Feather DSL andI like FreeBSD even though tht be a unix. I was amazed at the total conspiracy I found out about after switching to linux... it seems there are hardcore linux fans telling windows users it's a horrible terminal based OS with no GUI... like my friend Homer, he tells everyone Linux suxks, just because he doesn't want any one copying what he's doing. ... Linux is the best... hands down in my opinion... It's easy, there's lots of support for it, and it's way more flexible.

xlcrmax wrote:What are ur views on linux, including all distros?

Well, let's see:

Started off (5-6 years ago) with one of the first versions of Redhat but couldn't find anything in the sea of symbolic links

Moved to Slackware - i liked it - but i completely hosed the library compatibilities and proceeded to accidentially delete the entire filesystem

Tried Debian - but did not like it

Installed freebsd - i liked it - simple, it works, and it has ports for updating

Installed another server with Gnoppix - it was OK for a while but I got bored with it and now I am running Ubuntu.

And here we are.

zogo wrote:I don't believe you, unless you're trying to use a pirated copy of winxp, or trying to install on a 5+ year old machine.

I've used Windows XP, and I have never, EVER managed to crash it. It's been runnning for the last 3 years flawlessly, despite my impatience and loads of useless pirated software.

As far as using Linux, I can't say I don't like it, but I can say I don't need it. For my basic needs, linux is useless.

I don't pirate software because I respect the people making it. So no, my version of Windows XP is completely legal, and I'm not lying about my ordeal.

Let's say I believe you. Did you bother to check whether something's wrong with the CD, or your system, or the combination of the two? Because something WAS wrong. You can't judge the process of installation of an operating system by one unsuccesful install.

Then hundreds of thousands of kids could conclude that configuring Linux sucks ass, because it takes them a month to find all the drivers they need and get their Linux up and running.

I'm sorry I implied you were lying.

This wasn't my first install of XP. I installed it on a bunch of computers (yes, with minimal difficulty); it looked nice so I got one for myself. The story is recited previously.

No, there was nothing wrong with either my system or disk, and, granted, mine was probably a 1 and a 1,000,000 chance, but it did happen. I've since downgraded from SP2 and things have steadied out a bit.

Also, my mom got a Dell, so she asked me if I'd come out and help her with it because it kept 'restarting.' When I went to see what was wrong it was because it was BSoD'ing. On a default Dell install the OS wouldn't stay on for more than 30 minutes. Maybe it was from the horse-shit Dell installs by default, or maybe the drivers for her system weren't that great, but the point is, it crashed a lot.

Nah, no worries about me lying. It is the Internet, and trolls spout off things without thinking, so I'm not judging you.

EDIT: For clarity:
I'm not judging you for thinking I was a troll.

I dual boot Ubuntu with XP pro...

I use Ubuntu for most things apart from when I need good audio as Ubuntu will only let me use one audio source at a time and I use my XP for gaming

Prototype wrote:I use Linux because I feel more comfortable with it. Someone once told me that configuring Linux was a nightmare compared to Windows, but I'd have to strongly disaagree.

It took me 3 days to get Windows to not crash after I logged in (yes, 3), and it took me only a couple hours (at the most) to configure Linux. I bet it wouldn't take 3 days even if I compiled the kernel and made my own mini-distro.

Plus, I feel handicapped when using Windows. The excuse for a shell is just pathetic, and forces everything to be accessed from the GUI.

Also, I recommend OpenBSD if you are an enthusiast, or just want to try something new. It's very awesome, very secure, and it'll make you feel good.

EDIT: I was a Windows user for a very long time, but it wasn't that hard to get into Linux. I first messed around with it (can't remember the kernvel version) on an old junk computer just trying to learn a bit, then I dual-booted so I could try it as an OS, now I'm x-booting with Linux, and a few other UNIX-like OSs just because I prefer it.

FreeBSD is my operating system of choice, but yes, I do love linux. Simply because.. well, it kicks ass. =P

I used to have linux installed on my HD and dual booted it with win, but the lack of free space made me have to choose which one keep and which one not, and as I never succeed on running my games on linux, it had to go. But I still use linux live CD's distros (like knoppix or knottix), specially when windows breaks down

zogo wrote:I don't believe you, unless you're trying to use a pirated copy of winxp, or trying to install on a 5+ year old machine.

I've used Windows XP, and I have never, EVER managed to crash it. It's been runnning for the last 3 years flawlessly, despite my impatience and loads of useless pirated software.
As far as using Linux, I can't say I don't like it, but I can say I don't need it. For my basic needs, linux is useless.

What are you're basic needs ?
Never managed to crash it ? I managed to do that several times even without trying.
Are you using an IBM super computer or what ? Windows is rotten from the core.I grew up on it.I seen it develop from Windows 3.1 and they really haven't changed much only the shiny new interface.
Linux is more comfortable.It's hard to learn but it's worth it.It's stable , fast , with linux you can do everithing what you could do with windows and much much more.
I use Kubuntu for pretty long time now and when I have to work under windows, well it's like hell.
Yeah and with linux you don't need to format you're hard drive every 6 months like with windows and you don't need to pay big cash for firewalls and antiviruses.

What the hell do people try to do with windows to get it to crash that often?

My computer rarely crashes, it does happen but I can't remember the last time.

As for what I can do with linux, I could not play windows games with linux.

And I've never formatted by hd every 6 months?

Nothing much.Just trying to play Counter Strike.
It has crashed several several times.Tried it under linux with cedega and it was faster and it had smoother graphics.
You can play under linux to.There are many games.Check out happypenguin.org .
But if you're such a game addict for those bloody games out there they can be configured to work under linux to. Cedega rullz.

And as for windows.Just don't like the company.Check this out :

http://www.mackido.com/History/Gates_a_Genius.html
http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com/content/whatsbad.shtml

Yeah and to prove that it's lamely coded: Try making a folder named aux or con

Either your installation or hardware must be faulty then, there's no reason it would crash that often. How about a viral scan.

As for the links, I tend to not read biased chit.

Cedega may rule, but why would I go through the trouble of getting linux and then cedega (which costs) to play, when I already have a functioning windows machine that does not crash about, or limit what I do (since I son't do that much), AND runs the games without the need of another piece of software. Granted, once I upgrade my computer I'll be scrapping windows for most of the time, but atm there is no reason to do that.

Regarding happypenguin, that's why I specified windows games.

And I would want to make a folder named aux because?

btw, And I've never formatted by hd every 6 months?

If I got a dollar every time one of my friends called me to see what's wrong with they're windows mashine I would be rich right now.
It seems that you are one of the lucky ones.But not every one is as lucky as you.
I've seen windows do crazy things and we did viral scannes but found nothing all the hardware was certified from "trusted" manufacturers.

It happened with one of my friends that windows could not read the hard drive and was freezing when they tried reinstalling it.They were telled to buy a new hard drive.They called me over.I booted up an Ubuntu live cd and mounted the hard drive.It did not have any problems under linux.Only windows couldn't read it.We backed up everything and deleted the problem partition.And reinstalled windows.
There are several examples of windows going wild from one day to another.

Look I used to be a windows user.I had XP sp2.Still have the cd.
I had good hardware, original cd, profesional firewall and antivirus software.But it was slow as hell.Just can't compare it to linux in speed and stability.Windows simply has problems. But hey it's nothing what a total rewriting can't fix Use windows if it works and satisfies your needs.But if you want more then Linux is the answer.

Have you ever thought about why so many people hate windows and microsoft?
If they got nothing to hide.And windows works well, there are no FBI backdoors in it and other muddy things then why don't they share the source
code? Are they afraid of competition?

It's funny, you know these people that have windows problems and I know people who don't.

As for why people hate windows, the majority of windows users have no problems. The 'nerd' community is far fewer than the 'normal' people who don't know much better.