Ideal form of governement

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What is the most ideal form of government?

Anarchy
7
28%
Monarchy
0
No votes
Oligarchy
0
No votes
Democracy
9
36%
Republic
4
16%
Socialism
2
8%
Communism
0
No votes
"Philosopher' King
1
4%
Dictatorship/Empire
2
8%
 
Total votes : 25

Postby antirem on Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:14 pm

The real public service would to make people more aware of polotics. Its sad when you can use slander to get votes..
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Postby goliat on Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:49 pm

Why do you have communism and facism together? They are complete opposites, facism being radically right wing while communism was is far left wing.

That don`t realy prouve the difference betwen communism and facism. facism is dictatorship in hands of one man, the other is dictatorship is hands of whole party but not realy because there is general secretary, who has more authority than the president of U.S. . So both, communism and facism are dictatorship. And I think the correct term is not communism while socialism.
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Postby antirem on Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:55 pm

goliat wrote:
Why do you have communism and facism together? They are complete opposites, facism being radically right wing while communism was is far left wing.

That don`t realy prouve the difference betwen communism and facism. facism is dictatorship in hands of one man, the other is dictatorship is hands of whole party but not realy because there is general secretary, who has more authority than the president of U.S. . So both, communism and facism are dictatorship. And I think the correct term is not communism while socialism.

If you replaced either facism or communism in the earlier statment with the word demcoracy you would full heartedly agree with him, not waisting time to look for facts. Grouping facism and communism would be like saying that because america and russia both have an executive branch, legislative branch, and a judiciary branch they must have the same type of goverment. Russia is communist and it is not a dictatorship. I dont think dictators want a legislator or free press....

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Postby goliat on Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:58 pm

hehe... yes, you`re right, it`s not dictatorship, it`s worse. Dictatorship has only one dictator, low level corruption, fast execution, clear laws while socialism is a very complicated hierarchy of peoples, which tolerate fawning, corruption and connection.
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Postby antirem on Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:16 am

Actually communism is a perfect model of goverment... no social classes! People are easly corrupt so the model fails.. I think the russian mafia created a puppet gov't after the USSR and thats why its economics are so screwed up now.. not saying stalin was a nice guy. Dictatorships can be good goverments if the dictator has the people in mind.
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Postby Will on Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:40 pm

antirem wrote:Actually communism is a perfect model of goverment.


If a government is perfect only without people; then it really isn't that good of a government anyways Razz
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Postby antirem on Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:20 pm

well the theroy is very nice at least... more so than a democracy which i think is more practical
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Postby goliat on Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:36 pm

heh, communism! idealistic nonsense. No one will be able to reach the real communism (The teory of perfektly closed community, no social classes bla-bla). This is against human nature. Man who have invent this teory (Marks) is just someone who want to live better without working. Thats why he invent this teory, because he dont want to dig ditches.
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Postby goliat on Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:54 pm

antirem wrote:Actually communism is a perfect model of goverment...



Lets make a difference between communism and socialism Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Postby antirem on Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:40 am

Laughing damn.. almost always catch myself, i sorta changed the topid to communism with out realizing it.

I am neither right or left wing. I understand the logic both of them use. I used to be a full fledged conservative and couldnt understand why liberals thought the way they do which made it hard to talk to them. Liberals are not as concerned about economics but provinding for people so they can be happy. Take the word welfare literaly. So in communism everyone is taken care of so everyone has an equal oppurtunity to enjoy their life. In theory it is great but once corrupt it is hard to revive.

Im a libertarian and stand for everything communism is not.. but i still consider the theory a good one.
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Postby shnitsel on Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:27 pm

The ideal government is no government at all.
democracy seems worse than dictatorship these days, lol.
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Postby Bugs42 on Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:15 am

shnitsel wrote:The ideal government is no government at all.
democracy seems worse than dictatorship these days, lol.

Well, at least in a democracy changing things usually doesn't require an armed revolution.
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Postby antirem on Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:40 am

an ideal goverment would be anarchy but before being able to have a peaceful anarchy you would need to condition everyone to mutually help and look after one another... which you would need a dictatorship to do
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Postby Will on Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:13 am

antirem wrote:ayou would need to condition everyone to mutually help and look after one another.


Impossible. It would require an entire rewriting of our genome, social structure, and evolutionary development.
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Postby antirem on Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:16 pm

nighthawk you didnt read everything. After that i said"which you would need a dictatorship to do" i think that would be corrupt and never work. It is possible to condition people not right now and i wouldnt be for it because whos morals are being taught
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