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Postby krod on Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:55 am

we are doing that somewhat, we don't even think about accepting a user until they have stuck around for at least 2-3 weeks.
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Postby mm_freak on Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:03 am

Yes, but I'd remove the 15+ posts from the official requirements. Otherwise it encourages jerks to spam, because they think, we're stupid.
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Postby Tim on Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:01 am

The 15 posts rule is going nowhere, at least not for the time being.
I put it there to increase forum activity, sure its abused from time to time, so what, they lose out all it takes is like 6 clicks to remove all their posts.
I couldn't care less if the applicant is the most useful, interesting poster in the world, ever wince we started Phoenix we wanted it to be a community thing and that requires activity.

That and I think 15 is a good, general number its not like it hard to make if you stick around for a few days, this stops the users from spamming us with requests, be that by "bombing" or just a load of dickheads applying.
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Postby pimpdawny on Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:11 am

Now, see that makes even more sense than the 15 posts required to apply. As you and others have stated, anyone can do 15 posts in a matter of minutes.

Regular posting being required is a good thing. And to the person who said that it's hard to be a regular poster, how hard is it to log in, read what is being said and add in your opinion...

Not really so hard. What these guys are doing here is something really neat. They don't have to give anyone a free shell account, and I think that what they're asking of new applicants isn't too much. Hell, they could be asking for so much more than just being a regular poster.
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Postby mm_freak on Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:38 am

Activity is important for a community, that's right. But my opinion is that activity without value just deters potential members.
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Postby Boso on Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:04 pm

mm_freak wrote:Activity is important for a community, that's right. But my opinion is that activity without value just deters potential members.


Yep, I agree with mm_freak. Along with the activity we see lots of spammy and senseless posts.
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Postby Pantero Blanco on Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:52 pm

Part of the problem might be that links to phoenix-network are advertising it as a place to get shell accounts instead of a community. I've seen one that didn't even mention the forum or knowledge database; it just said "Phoenix Network shell accounts".
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Postby Boso on Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:58 pm

There is no such thing as free lunch. So nobody can expect that will receive a the shell for free Wink.
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Postby Pantero Blanco on Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:04 pm

No one with any common sense will expect that. Kids and adults lacking in that area sometimes expect some very, very odd things.
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Postby pimpdawny on Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:22 pm

Yes, I completely agree with you mm_freak. And please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that just because there are active posters on here, that they should get a shell account. I don't think that those who just log on and post spam messages should get an account. I hope I didn't make it sound that way.

I do have to admit however, that once in a while, a simple "LOL" or "haha" post might fit in perfectly with whatever is going on in the thread. Know what I mean?

Notice I said "once in a while". Wink
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Postby mm_freak on Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:49 pm

pimpdawny wrote:I do have to admit however, that once in a while, a simple "LOL" or "haha" post might fit in perfectly with whatever is going on in the thread. Know what I mean?

Notice I said "once in a while". ;)


That's what I meant. You can't do that here without having half of the community entitle you as a spammer. Not as long as the 15+ posts rule exists. I hardly try to write something more than just "I agree" or "Hehe".
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Postby rafamonte on Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:29 am

The problem of 15 posts is that people will talk without thinking...

In my case, the problem is my bad english... i'm not here just to
learn about unix and networking, but aprimorate my english skills.

Make 15 or 30 posts it's not a problem, but keep a good discution
for a long time... i dont know...

A better way of validation is keep track of regular posting...
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Postby pimpdawny on Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:30 am

As far as I know, that's what they do. They can very easily check and see if you're posting bullshit posts or not.

As for conversations being kept up... obviously it can be done... this conversation was started when? And the date is what? And people are still discussing it... Mhmm Wink
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Postby mm_freak on Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:01 am

pimpdawny wrote:As for conversations being kept up... obviously it can be done... this conversation was started when? And the date is what? And people are still discussing it... Mhmm ;)


This topic was dead for quite some time. rafamonte fired it up again. =)
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Postby FLuXx on Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:55 am

You're joking right spiritfall?

I'm past the limit but I knew even before I completed my registration for the forums I would not be applying for a shell. But that makes it more worth-while knowing you don't just accept any ol'user.

Fair trade to me.
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