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Hello everyone,

More and more I get to think that this forum is more of a key to the shell account. I see many people with exactly 15 posts. Also I see other people who don't really read through the posts. They just say something to increase their post count. Maybe the admins and moderators should do something about it, because serious discussion is nearly impossible here.

Maby it's because of the language . I guess it ain't that interesting to "try" to comunicate with foreign people using their second language.

Yeah, I noticed that, too. But my English is also not perfect. =)

mm_freak wrote:Hello everyone,

More and more I get to think that this forum is more of a key to the shell account. I see many people with exactly 15 posts. Also I see other people who don't really read through the posts. They just say something to increase their post count. Maybe the admins and moderators should do something about it, because serious discussion is nearly impossible here.

I think you'll find that since I implemented the 15 posts rule there has been a whole 1 person's account created. The 15 posts is the requirment to signup, you need alot more than that to actually get the shell, we monitor each user and every so often we add a couple of new ones because they are contributing to our community, anyone with 15 posts has less than 1% chance of actually getting the shell.

Tim wrote:..., anyone with 15 posts has less than 1% chance of actually getting the shell.

Yeah, but people think so. So they just post something to get to the 15 posts.

I Really love to make posts in forums but sometimes the forums don`t gives to peoples that they really need. When i have free time I visiting few forums, but they are connect with newspaper or magazine and every day there is enought fresh themes. This forum realy need some hot themes, because I`m realy tired to listen about free shell and computer technologies. So my opinion is that, this forum realy need some changes to be intresting not just for compilers but for normal internet user.PLEASE EXCUSE MY BAD ENGLISH!!!

Yes, people spam posts to get their 15 posts... My bet is the admins when the request comes trough check the posts. If the post are spam they reject the application. After that, the admins and mods probably delete those spamy posts... This is the best way I can figure it out this thing is working...

That what are we doing :-) sometimes we even ban an ppls who are spaming forums :-)

I think the 15+ post rule is a good one. And did I see that since that rule was implemented, only one account was created? I admit, I'm new to this site, and I had planned on submitting my application to join your community at around my 15th post. But I guess the best thing for me to do is to get to know you all a little bit better first. I certainly don't want to upset anyone by trying to push myself in and trying to be a part of something I might not be welcomed into (NOT saying that you aren't welcoming).

I don't want anyone to think I'm a leecher or anything. I am by far nothing like that. I'm actually a pretty cool chick - or so my friends say. Just reading through some of the forums, you guys sound like a fun crew. And I look forward to chatting with you all in the near future.

Maybe instead of just requiring a person to submit an application, they should have to have a couple of regulars or one of the mods speak up for them as well? People who've posted meaningless messages or spam won't have made many friends.

I've got a new policy about spam...if I see more than 4 pointless messages I just hit the ban button no questions asked.

I don't really see the necessity to have a mod or other user refer you to get an account as I know most people here won't have gotten to know others that well and those people shouldn't be discriminated against. For example, theres maybe 8 people I would have suggested and most of them already have accounts.

I dnt usually talk in here but im better seen in IRC where my second home is #phoenix. Right tim? hehehe, nwayz juz came back from a very lonely vacation and im quite happy to be back again. Hope to see u guys around and talk to you all. =p

Tim, in regards to your new spam policy... meaningless posts... do you count replies to others' posts? I tend to be the type of person who wants to reply to everyone. I'm just weird that way. I don't mean any of my responses to count as toward my "15". I just like to talk a lot.

i agree with what pimpdawny said that the fifteen posts is a good rule. although truth be told i would honestly rather just be able to sighn up for this shell without going through this. BUT it is forcing me to get into this whole community and truth be told i sorta like it. id still like to get the shell account soon though............... i'm actualy not even sure if i can anymore cuasei think i tried twice on accident. well once on accident and then again when i had 15. well if i can try again ill wait until i have actualy contributed to the community eneough first.

My idea was to replace the 15+ posts rule by something like regular posting. If the user is posting regularly and the posts are meaningful, then the user is also worth getting a shell. I wouldn't even use strict numbers. In that case the users would just try to keep up with those limits. In my opinion the rule should be something like this:

To get a shell account on the Phoenix Network, you need to be a valued member in the forums and/or an active member on IRC. Contribute to the community and show value. The decision is not bound to strict numbers, but rather the administrators decide on their own if you deserve a shell account.