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So I'm talkin to people all the time, some hate bush, others love him. In reality I liked the guy because everything that I heard good was really good, and when some one said something bad it really seemed more like they were just wining. However the other day I heard stuff about him killing people and using the war to cover, and then gas and oil scandles.... All kinds of weird stuff that I had now clue about. The real mistery is that I can't find a lot about any of it on the web. Did that person make it up? or is there really something we Don't know?!!??!


Jex

im not an US citizen... i was talking to a guy from USA the other day (on IRC that is). You know how we stared the conversation? I said "what up?" He replied "Too bad Bush leading the country"... Something like that, i dont remember the exact quote... Anyway, in my opinon Bush is an idiot.. He attacked Iraq, now he doesnt exclude the chance to attack Iran... OIL i think is all about!

He's a bad bad man!.. j/k i don't know him in personal and i don't want to know him.

If his wars lower the oil price then all is good, fuel prices are outrageous at the moment, $1.25/ltr is way too much. We were paying 70-80 cents per litre a few months ago.
On the other hand, I agree totally with the war on Iraq sure the reasons they gave didn't pay off but the threat was neutrilized, the dictator was removed and the nation can slowly move towards a totally free nation with the securities and rights you expect in any 21st century nation like the US or UK. This is where many of the very religious, ethic countrys bother me like in Afganistan where they weren't allowed to have music on the radio stations while the Taliban was in power was attrocious.
So yeh, I guess I do support Bush, I agree with his ideas on doing something about problems rather than pissing around and trying to find a "diplomatic" resolution, especially when you're dealing with people like Sudam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, the Taliban, etc.

Heh i can't say nothing i'm not USA citizen and not concantrated to politics :-)

You can comment on this topic no matter where you come from. In fact I think for us living in the US it's even more interesting to know what people from outside of the states think. I do believe President Bush to be a good person, in that I think he is really doing what he feels is best for the country. However I do not care for him as a person or as a president. I do not like how his religious beliefs dictate some important policies as well. I understand that such beliefs make up the person that you are, but I think he is too quick to judge when it comes to very complex issues such as life support, abortion, and gay rights. I could go on but I try to avoid heated or long-winded topics such as these =).

Oh, you just got to love Bush, in all his riddled English and espionage-esque administration.

The problem with President Bush is that he is sucking up to the conservative Christians by implimenting policies that reflect his beliefs, regardless of the fact that hindus, budhists, mudlisms, etc, live in the US as well. He does with his attempt to ammend the banning of gay marriage to the constitution, establishing the Bible as an education resource in public schools, and even tried to force muslims to use the Bible instead of the koran in the construction stages of Iraq's judiciary system.

But to respond to Tim:

If his wars lower the oil price then all is good, fuel prices are outrageous at the moment, $1.25/ltr is way too much. We were paying 70-80 cents per litre a few months ago.
On the other hand, I agree totally with the war on Iraq sure the reasons they gave didn't pay off but the threat was neutrilized, the dictator was removed and the nation can slowly move towards a totally free nation with the securities and rights you expect in any 21st century nation like the US or UK. This is where many of the very religious, ethic countrys bother me like in Afganistan where they weren't allowed to have music on the radio stations while the Taliban was in power was attrocious.
So yeh, I guess I do support Bush, I agree with his ideas on doing something about problems rather than pissing around and trying to find a "diplomatic" resolution, especially when you're dealing with people like Sudam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, the Taliban, etc.

Thats the problem, you don't want to evade a country, regardless of the dictator, just for your own country's economical interests. Going in for oil would just further depict Americans as pigs. The problem is, with Iraq, that it is so much so a third world country, it would take probably 50 years or more for it to be anywhere on the level of the UK, let alone the US.

Bush really isn't getting much done by just "getting things done and not pissing around". Why? Because his decision are impulsive and these more, slower, 'diplomatic' resolutions, you could say, are really just better strategy. For instance, it wasn't a good strategy to go into a war, regardless of weapons, arrest of a dictator, and so on, you have to spend billions on repairing the country. Now that we have to deal with getting out, the best thing to do is go with these more "diplomatic" solutions.

Oh, and you want to know what happened to Saddam Hussein? The US government, due to high political stamina damage, quietly released Hussein from prison without much public attention whatsoever.

You could say we accomplished nothing by going to war and "getting things done".

dont really like him never have, he is doing everything for the sake of his own benifits

He`s selfish person

i think everyone has a good and bad side.. so i cant say that he is good or he is bad..

any of you see that movie farenheit 9/11? that movie shows everything bad about Bush and all the screw ups he made. I personally think he should be asssinated(a little dramatic) for everything he has done to this world. Some people would consider him the new Hitler. Every one has their own opinion and is entitled to it. His family also owns one of the biggest oil suppliers in the southwest if not the country, and i can guarentee you all that is one of the original reasons why we went into Iraq and got out of Afganastan as quickly as possible. He will be one of the richest former presidents in about 10 years.

I think Bush is better than that other guy he ran against...

In my opinion Bush is a dumba** and a terrorist.

"Bush - a terrorist? This can't be true! Terrorists attack the normal guys - not the army. Terrorist want to overtake other countrys."

Now think:
The missiles of Bush's Army often hit repeatedly their target not and kill civilians.

Bush overtaked like the Iraq and so on...

Does it really matter if Bush is a great guy? On a personal level, I'm sure he's an okay guy to get along with, maybe even nice to know,

It's his bone-headed policies that are the problem.

About "is he a terrorist" -- I have no idea. With the PATRIOT act, it would certainly seem so because he is stripping away many rights of the American people. If he honestly thinks that "it will help in the long run" (which it won't), I'd say there is a string case that he is not.

In the end, it doesn't matter if Bush is a good guy or not. He could save millions of African children and I still wouldn't really care; the bottom line is that his enacted laws and policies are seriously screwing with the landscape of America.

Like al_tyranny mentioned, the patriot act no way helps people "in the long run" or any overall view whatsoever. It just allows government agencies to unexpectedly raid your house because they have reason to believe, without even needing a warrant, that of all people YOU are a terrorist.

Now let's think here for one second. How many terrorists are there? There are a few in guantanamo bay, according to the white house, tons, but they only represent a small, small, and very small slice of our 270+ million population. So with the rarities of terrorists considered, the patriot act is just a gateway for the government to get into your personal life.

Hell, the government is probably going to profile us anyways. If you're a legal alien or a naturalized citizen, you're male, from mid-east descent, the government will most likely choose you as a suspect over an african american, a caucasion, or a hispanic.

That leaves the patriot act totally useless.