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It's just that the death penalty will definetly stop some crimes happening. There's the problem that even more people are born with some cerebral disfunctions or whatever you can call them (=insane)... And they don't really know what they're doing. So that won't stop them, i'm sure.
But even though we see that criminals, when they get out of jail, are continuing their actions, we still apply the same laws. Like someone will be a new man when they get out. Bullsh*t. It's plain stupid, like i've said.

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that`s terrible. that man shout get death sentence!

To this, all I can say is, isn't the 'eye for an eye' philosophy a _tad_ barbarick and primitive for human nature? Everyone wants to have their greiving pay off in some way and be able to get revenge. Its normal reaction to these types of scenarios.

Though, I do agree with you Strafe, nobody changes after prison except for a short-term impact of good will after they finally serve the jail sentence (or in some cases, extreme bitterness that their life has been wasted away), however, people murder with an intent that is no better explained than a simple compulsion; that drives someone's mind to insanity or just is a sexual turn on for these killer, regardless, they're sick. They kill because they're sick, right?

Isn't death sentence the exact same thing? Without the high anxiety, mind altering personality disorders, sexual fetishes and son, of course, but we as humans are killing people using lethal injection for *revenge*. I'm sure that emotion is the driving force for many murderers.

Lethal injection, as in the death sentence, is just as bad as being the murderer. You have the same intent as he does, except you have the legal calibur on your side because this is well accepted in the United States. By using the death sentence, we're no better than the murderer because we're stooping to the same level of thinking the murder was compulsively looping through when he or she decided to kill someone for the above reasons.

Above else, murder is quick and painless. Hell, lethal injection is a gentle sleep to eternity. Wouldn't you rather have them spend their days being ass raped in prison, beat up by convicts, and eating horrible food with the most limited lifestyle for the REST of their life WITHOUT parole? Wouldn't you, because really, that is __way__ worse than having to actually go through a gentle sleep. They may miss their previous lives, but even if they were out of jail, which would be unlikely, their mental instability will most likely discomfort them anyways.

Thats life.. imagine if there was no crime.. it'd be weird :/

when i first read the post, i thought it's going to be something about sun changing to a red dwarf star
anyways, i think elder and immature people raping the youngster is just wrong
why don't they just do something more productive than kidnapping a child and doing such harmful thing to a weaking?
does he know what will be this catastrophic change in life or her? it will make her dismal for most of her life and people will hold prejudice aganist them for sure

Humans are violent in nature, destroying everything in their path. Is the end of the world near? I would say yes if you think Bush is the antichrist. Media shows all the horrors today but not all the good. The more people we have on this planet the word\se things will become. Money is the root of all evil. If a person had everything he wanted/needed would he do something evil? Probably. Greed is in human nature. So the solution to the times is the end of times....

I have a friend that works at a very bad neiborhood, but because bad people there don't do their criminal thing at their own neighborhod, my friend getting to know some of them.
They (the criminal) said that jail is like heaven to them.
at their own home, they don't know what they going to eat.
but in jail, they got 3 meals and their own bed.
after they got out the jail with proud they said, "I just got back from vacation".
Isn't the jail suppose to make them affraid to do crime again?
but why they so proud if they got locked up (or vacation)

I live in Italy, and yesterday a mother killed her child (only 4!) and then, when she was arrested, she tried to suicide herself getting down a window.

Like her there are many women who have same mental problems, and in Italy death penalty is out of law. I don't think death penalty may be a solution, never. But cases like this one or others already mentioned are growing.

Death penalty? Free use of weapons? But do you know in USA there are about 1.7 millions children living with unattended weapons? Do you remember Columbine? Or Superdome in New Orleans, in these days, with 30 bathroom for 20000 ppl, killing themselves?

So, in my opinion, only chance to solve this problem is to close every weapons factories, and give everybody chance to work, to study, to be a person.

If many ppl think jail is an holiday, maybe we have to build a society where ppl may live together in peace.

Kevo wrote:Yeah that's true. It's getting bad, everything is all about money, and that's it, like people selling space on their bodies for ad's to be tattooed or stuff like that. soon people are going to be born with ads on them to make money. money is one of the main things causing majority of the problems. might be different to others. but I donno.

Do you have a better alternative? Communism? A second Thrid Reich? We could step a few hundret years back, where people killed each other to have something to eat. Money is a unique exchange method. No need to argue. And it makes competetion possible in the first place - you have a choice, which you didn't have before the invention of a widely accepted way of payment.

Poor little girl.

I live in Bulgaria and there is a flat with a prostitutes in my block. You have no idea what kind of scum is comming from time to time.

Btw the communism is really great idea. And it's very different from the things that happened in the USSR. However it is impossible to be done because of the human nature.

Boso wrote:Btw the communism is really great idea. And it's very different from the things that happened in the USSR. However it is impossible to be done because of the human nature.

As you said: it's the human nature. Every social system has drawbacks. If you wanted a peaceful society, you would need to put everybody in a jail with no contact to the outside world - including yourself.

The best way to make the planet peaceful is to make all the people disappear …

i know the world is a very very messed up place. people killing people and such. but i think the only thing that you can do is ya know keep on keepingon. you cant dwell on these thigns forever because there is no solution and if you dwell to long not able to accept the fact the world is sometimes a horrible place then your mind will come up with soem sort of crazy solution. "if nobody's alive then nobody will die" somethine like that. but that doesent really fix the problem does it? no it doesent. you just have to live on and remember that no matter how much stuff sucks chances are it could suck alot more.

I fully agree with Infleedish. There is no solution. You can keep optimizing, but you can't reach perfection. I have seen an interesting science fiction movie called THX 1138. It shows this robot society mentioned in another thread. People taking drugs that destroy their humanity and make robots of them. The state is one huge company (the bosses are computers) that controls everything. There are no murders anymore, but also there are no real humans.

Talk about rape issues.. In my country, a very well-known and powerful family had to face a court trial because their sons were accused of raping another rich girls and afterwards killed the sisters. It took so many years before the trial to be started for some reason, MONEY TALKS!

The victims' family felt somehow relieved after knowing that the suspects had to be placed behind bars. This case happened 3 years ago, if I'm not mistaken. But recent news said suspects had to be freed due to insufficient evidences. Can you just imagine how unfair life is? It's s'pose to be life imprisonment but then again, money makes the world go round...

I hate stuff like this... uneven treatment, What difference does it make anyhow? Just because they're rich doesn't mean they're exempted from crimes whatsoever. That's the irony of life...

Society is failing, criminals dont mind prison anymore because its better than there life on the street where they have to steal to eat, and what's worse is that its all paid for by tax payers.
If it were up to me I would give the money to struggling people, single parent family's and orphans and the like, then if there is anything left after that then and only then feed the prisoners. But even convicting offending people is hard, I heard about allot of what goes on in the police in my country and it sickens me that they are so thick and stupid and even worse, for instance there is a policeman being charged with rape at the moment, everyone inside the police knows he is guilty and yet he is getting crow counsel (i.e police layers paid for by taxpayers) even worse is that its been 3 months since he was changed and its taken all this time to get him to court, all the while he has been on PAID leave vacationing with his family.... my mind boggles at the ignorance, stupidity and self-destruction that society is bring upon itself
more to my horror is criminals get off all the time. Just last week I heard about a guy who broke his sanity fuse and bashed his wife up very well and put her in hospital with an inch of her life left and nothing was done about it because "He was a 1st time domestic offender".
with the way things are going today I doubt it will be long before people start to take matters into there own hands and deal to criminals as they should be, as human nature says it should be, that is they should be outcast from society just like they would in caveman days!

Mankind should learn to see happiness in the smole things and to love a bit more becouse love is the strongest force that make us whole