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"Blue screen of death"

Postby Rommaster on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:42 am

Last night I was playing Unreal Tournament.. I was doing fine, had around 100+ points on my team(first Very Happy ) suddenly it got harder and harder to frag my opponents due to the lag/delays of the game (not my connection). So I waited a bit till it's over... and..there it is! Sad

The so called "blue screen of death" appeared! I tried the famous combination of keys: ctrl + alt + delete, nothing. Had to hard-reboot using the actual button on my system.

Have any of you encountered a "blue screen of death" on Windows XP or any other Operating System? How frequently? And what caused it?
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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby Hypnotize on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:50 am

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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby crack0 on Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:38 pm

think that Microsoft told that blue screen of death bug was fixed on XP so it's not about the system
probably it's a game bug ...
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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby Tavy on Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:22 pm

What was the error?

I only had on BSoD ever on XP. It was due to a corrupted driver, but I fixed it right up in safe mode. Never happened again, even after a 5 week uptime.
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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby Netmaster on Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:15 pm

Well , it's not disputed that Microsoft should be renamed to Junksoft or something in that direction , because every software Mr.Bill Hates releases on the earth population is flooded till it's neck with bugs , bugs and bugs ...
to an unbelievable and comprehensible extent that I'm starting to think that MS (from now on JS , LOL) "deliberately" plants those faults in it! (if that was held true , would explain alot about JS's commercial success)

Personally speaking, I've suffered tremendously from the blue screen of death and other crashes since the release of Win95 .
Though I must admit that winXp is relatively more stable and reliable than all it's predecessors , still the brand new windows vista is said to be "very very stable" and ironically the same was claimed regarding winXp , you know what I'm mean don't ya?! Laughing

actually , the first time a BsoD occured on my pc running winxp was after a strange and unusual RAM failure took place(definitely due to a factory fault , replacing the ram solved the issue....good that I still had a guarantee at the time).
the second time was also after a hardware damage to my HDD (coz of a physical shock), btw I'm still using the same HDD , some small clusters of the disk are un-retrievable and from time to time the bsod suddendly pops up for apparently no reason even If I'm not running anything!

...probably because stupid win is trying to read some system logs etc from those damaged areas , I'm wondering when will winXp realize that bad sectors should be ignored?!
so the summary is , that most bsod on winXP occur due to the combination of hardware conflicts and very very bad and lazy winXp coding!

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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby Rommaster on Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:14 am

It only happened once or twice while playing Unreal Tournament 2004. It was probably caused by the lack of memory. I had two IRC clients opened with multiple servers and dozens of channels, utorrent and msn. I didn't remember exactly what was on the blue screen, since I was playing UT and wanted to continue(I was winning! Sad ) After that...I pushed the reset button because it was shiny!

System: AMD Athlon XP 2200+ 1,79 GHz, 512 MB ram

Nice post Netmaster. Cool

ps. Ok ok, it wasn't because the button was shiny, I just had to reconnect to the server to frag noobs. I'm not proud of it or whatever. Rolling Eyes
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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby JaMaHa on Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:37 pm

Blue screen of death...now that's something I haven't seen in a while.

Back in the Windows 98 days though....oh the memories.
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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby oscuro on Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:04 pm

I remember several of those deadly blue screens, yeah when I was on windows, specially 98 two years ago. When I changed to XP I became friendly with this 'date recovery' option. I don't remember the exact name of that.

Well the point was that when my computer started to get tricky, I just put the last date when the whole thing was working fine, and everybody happy. Now in linux I haven't seen anything similar.

I think it's very important to use, and set those specific points where your computer is working fine, when you work on windows. Just in case.

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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby De Kus on Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:30 pm

I regularly get a BSOD, when I start my PC while cold. Since also Debian freezes when triing to boot it in that situation, I consider it as a hardware issue ^-^.

The most annoying BSOD I've seen these days, where "Unmountable_Boot_Device" on boot time. Strangly it goes when you edit the boot.ini, but returns as soon there is only 1 system in there... reason: unknown Very Happy.

I don't like it to admit it, but I have hardly seen a Win2k SP4 or WinXP SP2 showing BSOD without it beeing either a hardware or a really ugly driver issue. I know of a printer driver which caused random BSOD, at least removing them returned the PC to normal and the error also occured on my fathers notebook.
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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby Tim on Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:29 am

Netmaster wrote:Well , it's not disputed that Microsoft should be renamed to Junksoft or something in that direction , because every software Mr.Bill Hates releases on the earth population is flooded till it's neck with bugs , bugs and bugs ...
to an unbelievable and comprehensible extent that I'm starting to think that MS (from now on JS , LOL) "deliberately" plants those faults in it! (if that was held true , would explain alot about JS's commercial success)

I believe you'll find that that is the case with absolutely all software it's just that Microsoft's software is a hell of a lot more popular than others so issues are found more often. You're right, some bugs are deliberately there because before the bugs were found software developers created other software which relied on that bug to function so MS has rewritten that part of the OS so that the bug features continue to exist.
Though I must admit that winXp is relatively more stable and reliable than all it's predecessors , still the brand new windows vista is said to be "very very stable" and ironically the same was claimed regarding winXp , you know what I'm mean don't ya?! Laughing

Err, Vista is stabler relative to previous releases of Windows, just as Windows XP 64-bit was much better than XP-32bit.

This Mircrosoft bashing has got to stop, most of the people who do it are incredibly uninformed and seem to just want to jump on the anti-MS band wagon. It is pathetic. When the Windows 2000 source was leaked a few years ago we saw that Mircrosoft's developers create great code (with some rather funky comments) and that a great deal of the issues with their OS are related to the drivers manufacturers make, it is stupid to expect one OS to support every peripheral available on the market perfectly.
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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby Netmaster on Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:26 pm

Tim wrote:This Mircrosoft bashing has got to stop, most of the people who do it are incredibly uninformed and seem to just want to jump on the anti-MS band wagon. It is pathetic. When the Windows 2000 source was leaked a few years ago we saw that Mircrosoft's developers create great code (with some rather funky comments) and that a great deal of the issues with their OS are related to the drivers manufacturers make, it is stupid to expect one OS to support every peripheral available on the market perfectly.


Well , I'm Not one of those "un-informed" ppl you're referring to.
but first of all , We have to put in mind that JS makes an insane amount of money annually (Do i need to elaborate on that? guess NOT!) plus the more than 100,000 employees who are working with JS from programmers to technicals!
when you look at those numbers of folks working for JS and the obscene fees they charge for dumm incompetent software , one really gotta put alot of question marks around JS.

regarding windows 2000 , I won't get into that but as facts go it was one of the worst OS's that history has seen!
now whether the source was good or not is another question , but apparently it wasn't good enough to be worth running (usually everybody throws the fault on someone else , in this case JS on the driver manufactures ...whatever)

Finally , Perfomance is directly or should be directly related to the Price , so from this persepective JS's products are indeed Junk.

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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby pugrit on Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:30 am

yeah, those were memories, speaking of which, anyone had a wallpaper that looks like the blue screen of death? lol Laughing Laughing
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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby Tim on Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:17 pm

Netmaster wrote:Well , I'm Not one of those "un-informed" ppl you're referring to.

Much of what you've said below makes it seem that way.
regarding windows 2000 , I won't get into that but as facts go it was one of the worst OS's that history has seen!

Dunno what you're thinking of but it's actually one of the most popular enterprises OS' we've ever seen, most businesses would still be running it (especially on their servers) if they hadn't been offered very attractive deals to upgrade to XP. Many still are.
Finally , Perfomance is directly or should be directly related to the Price , so from this persepective JS's products are indeed Junk.

So free software shouldn't be worth anyones time because it should perform dismally. Awesome logic.

edit: missed half a paragraph so here it is:
but first of all , We have to put in mind that JS makes an insane amount of money annually (Do i need to elaborate on that? guess NOT!) plus the more than 100,000 employees who are working with JS from programmers to technicals!
when you look at those numbers of folks working for JS and the obscene fees they charge for dumm incompetent software , one really gotta put alot of question marks around JS.

So the fact that they've created products which draw a profit make them a bad company which creates subpar products. Hot damn, last I checked that made them a successful company. Oh and better yet, it is a bad thing that they're using that profit to employ people to work on and assist with their products to improve the quality that the consumer receives. I would love to see you explain what exactly makes the Microsoft Windows pool of operating systems dumb incompetant software - I guarantee that you can't merely because it isn't.
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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby Netmaster on Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:14 pm

Tim wrote:I would love to see you explain what exactly makes the Microsoft Windows pool of operating systems dumb incompetant software - I guarantee that you can't merely because it isn't.

Well here I'm for the explanation , dude! and this time it's gonna be in slow motion to avoid misunderstandings.
first of all take any open source project , now if you look at there work and find bugs in it then that would be normal , Why? because it's an open source project! (i.e the folks involved in it aren't paid etc) on the other hand take a commercial project that produces software in the same category (JS as an example) So when you look at there work and find bugs in it.....(and you shall find alot of bugs int it (sigh) usually)
Then that would be in-accetable! because you've paid money money and alot of money , so nobody wants to see some junk in return for the hard earned cash. (ain't that obvious so far?)

When I previously mentioned that JS employees up to 100,0000 folks in programming ,etc and grosses billions of dollars annually , was to stress how in-acceptable the performance/price ratio is tending compared to that of free open source software.
here is an example to illustrate the performance/price ratio: which has a better ratio? a software with 1 bug and a price of $100 , or a software that costs (shall we say) $1 with the 2-3 bugs?
(note: the bugs are of the same type )

that should deliver the idea.

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Re: "Blue screen of death"

Postby Tim on Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:56 pm

Uh huh. So the fact that it's closed source means that it has to be perfect? I'm sorry but that's just dumb, nothing is perfect.

Microsoft products have no more bugs than anything else (hell they probably have substancially less) however they have a userbase far superior to most products put together so there is more opportunity for problems to be found. Most problems related to Microsoft operating systems is actually due to 3rd party drivers (ie. the ones not made by Microsoft themselves). If you put any other major software product in the position MS Windows or Office has you will find that they will be much worse off - it is unreasonable to expect such a product to work flawlessely on such a wide array of systems and configurations, anyone who expects as such is naieve.

I'm not sure how you see your opinions but they are just Microsoft bashing for the sake of Microsoft bashing, so far your views have either been wrong or, I'm sorry to say it, stupid.

Also open source doesn't mean unpaid, lots of open source projects are quite financially sound. Also you've once again said that free software is inferior and should be done away with in return for paid stuff which is somewhat contradicting the point you're trying to make.
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