NASA planning for Permenant Moon Base

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NASA planning for Permenant Moon Base

Postby Myst on Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:35 pm

http://space.newscientist.com/article/d ... unced.html


So what are your thoughts and comments.

Do you think they will let the average joe live there, or will it be like a tourist attraction; but who will reap the benefits from the tourist actions??? who actually owns the moon???? ohh boy that will be a big debate if someone starts buying land on the moon. Should we let the government regulate the buying of the land? But which government???

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Postby Samppa on Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:55 pm

I think the moon base will be more for studying low gravity effects on people (and whatever actually) and studying the universe without an interfering atmosphere.


Hopefully space will never be "up for grabs". At the very least let everything be internationally controlled.
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Postby Myst on Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:36 am

I still think that someone will try to profit off it. Take for example Virgin ( A big ass company with lots of $$$$$$). They have that SpaceOne thing or something where it take you near space for that no gravity effect; and they charge a big price for that trip. I bet they will try to get a hotel or something on the moon.

Actually come to think of it, as a "international community" should set up a hotel or something money building thing there and then donate that money towards charity or some worth while cause.
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Postby tarbosaurus_geticus on Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:18 am

The cost for creating a hotel on the moon are too exorbitant for any company in the world. Like Samppa said the moon base will be for research purposes only. Maybe after 50 years it will be for tourists too but until then...
If i think about i guess it will take 20 years until it's finnaly done, even more, so in 70 years we'll be visiting the moon.
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Postby silentguy on Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:08 pm

I've just recently read something about how much energy is needed to reach escape velocity to leave earths atmosphere and that is it is quite a lot... Sad
But I think one of the solutions was a geostationary space elevator, that would get people up by sending stuff mined in space down...

Hm, if they really start building hotels, i wonder what's gonna happen to all those folks that bought land up there... you know those sites that sell you a bit of land on the moon or a tiny piece of scotland so you can call yourself earl or something, don't you?

I must say that i would find it totally great to take a trip to the moon, but I guess if I go on line now, I'll never have enough money, regardless of whatever they build up there...
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Postby Samppa on Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:09 pm

A space elevator won't be feasible until nanotechnology is ready as anything else than nano-particles (or summat) would just crumble under it's own weight.

I've always wondered though that if you had a pipe that went up to space from the Earth and you opened up both ends, would the air get sucked out from the Earth? Very Happy


As for buying land on the moon, is that legitimate? And AFAIK you need to be either from a family of nobility or get appointed by a king or queen to get a title of any sort?
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Postby El Greco on Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:53 pm

silentguy wrote:Hm, if they really start building hotels, i wonder what's gonna happen to all those folks that bought land up there... you know those sites that sell you a bit of land on the moon or a tiny piece of scotland so you can call yourself earl or something, don't you?

They won't be able to do anything against it. There is an international treaty that forbids people or nations to claim the territory on a planets as theirs. (earth exluded I guess)
So all the people who sell land on the moon do not really own it ^^
I'll have a look if I can find a link about this international convention.
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Postby tarbosaurus_geticus on Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:33 pm

As for buying land on the moon, is that legitimate? And AFAIK you need to be either from a family of nobility or get appointed by a king or queen to get a title of any sort?

I'm way ahead of you guys Smile I ACTUALLY own land on the moon., well not exactly me but my dad who bought 1 square metre on the moon for 2 dollars:D I never thought i would be so proud to say that.
Seriously now the moon will never be owned by someone, just like Antarctica.

When i read the book journey From earth to the moon by Jules Vernes i really thought of it as fantesist, but now that i think about it wouldn't it be less expensive to have a big cannon that shoots projectiles in which you have building materials than to use jet propeled rockets and space ships? Of course people should still be transported via spacecrafts .
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Postby Samppa on Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:24 pm

A cannon? wtf are you on Very Happy

I don't know, sounds to me like you'd need a hell of a blast. Like real big.


But then, again after you're *finished* with the cannon... Razz
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Postby tarbosaurus_geticus on Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:42 am

I don't know, sounds to me like you'd need a hell of a blast. Like real big.


In the book they gave all the list with all the needed resources and there respective quantity's. It seemed to me that building the cannon was actually more expensive than aquiring the explosive which was really cheap. Consider the fact that book detailed stuff that happened right after the american civil war (nineteenth century) when tehnology was way inferior to what we have now, not to mention the easyness to acquire the products of today as well as funding.
I've always wondered though that if you had a pipe that went up to space from the Earth and you opened up both ends, would the air get sucked out from the Earth? Very Happy


No because the air will continue to be atracted by earth's gravity and stay where it is. Your tube things don't change anything in the means of pression, volume and temperature.
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Postby Myst on Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:15 pm

tarbosaurus_geticus wrote:
I don't know, sounds to me like you'd need a hell of a blast. Like real big.


In the book they gave all the list with all the needed resources and there respective quantity's. It seemed to me that building the cannon was actually more expensive than aquiring the explosive which was really cheap. Consider the fact that book detailed stuff that happened right after the american civil war (nineteenth century) when tehnology was way inferior to what we have now, not to mention the easyness to acquire the products of today as well as funding.
I've always wondered though that if you had a pipe that went up to space from the Earth and you opened up both ends, would the air get sucked out from the Earth? Very Happy


No because the air will continue to be atracted by earth's gravity and stay where it is. Your tube things don't change anything in the means of pression, volume and temperature.



Wouldn't it be pretty windy though Razz
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Postby tarbosaurus_geticus on Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:28 am

Wouldn't it be pretty windy though Razz

Well it's the moon kid not Disneyland you'll have to make sacrifices Wink
As i said it would be prefarable that people should be transported via spaceship though i don't see why it would be impossible to make a projectile fit for human transportation. The book is fiction but it seemed pretty plausible to me considering the superior tehnology we have today.
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Re: NASA planning for Permenant Moon Base

Postby Zanpakuto on Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:39 am

Huge corporations and large, territorial governments are most likely our future, space will probably be up for grabs to whoever settles it first, a motivation to spark the initial burst of humanity into the unknown. The end result will be a universe similar to http://eve-online.comEVE's, where a few of the better off governments control massive quantities, and the rest that is beyond their reach, corporations.
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