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What can you say to person that uses Methepethamine Hydrocloride?

Its really depends on alot of things really and what your stance is on Methamphetamine Hydrochloride.

Either:
He/she using it too much and is an addict.
Using it recreationally and in moderation.

Im not sure what youd want to say in the first instance, as thats tricky. If its being used right, i dont see much of a problem with it.

This is a subject i have to much experience with. there is no right amount, there is no recreation. if the are using it in moderation, that will only last so long. do whatever it takes to get them to stop. some of the ingredients are strong enough to desolve cement. think what that does to your insides. once your hooked you only have 2 options, death or jail. pm me if you need any help or have any questions.

tigerwolf you rili do have a point.
all i want to know is your comment, and that was good enaf.
You may say that you have self control in using this drug but the fact is that it already stained your blood(correct me if im wrong), those who are moderate user they only use it for some good reason, ex. work overtime. ^^.
And those who are addict uses almost 2 to 5and above a week, they just need to use for their contentment, they hunger for it.


Yes i agree Floyd, on you also their is no right amount in using this drug.
What if theyre realy is a self control? do u make any exception?

Is thier a way in sanitizing the blood for a drug test?

That would be crystal meth, right?

I heard that stuff is realy tricky and can create addiction very fast. There's no crystal meth in Europe, at least I wouldn't know of it.

There was sam guy at Oprah's show who was addicted to it, sounded pretty serious about his condition, btu he pulled out of it somehow. Afterwards I consulted internet to find out some more and comparing to some other recreational, party, drugs (like MDMA) this seemed way too serious.

Help the person asap. If it's someone close to you rise everyone to help her/him out.

I don't know if there is a way to clean it out of your system, but meth is water soluble, like cocaine. it is out of your system in 2 to 3 days. i believe in moderation and social partying, but not with meth. it will overtake your life. In my late teens i was abusing cocaine. i used for about a year and a half. Then i tried meth. the first time i tried it i snorted a bump less then half the size of my pinky nail, a very, very small amount. It kept me awake for 5 days. No food, no sleep, i'm not even sure i had a glass of water. This was very pure. That's all it took, one time, and i was hooked. once your on it for a very short amount of time you can't function without it. You won't get out of bed. Intelligence can be dangerous, I learned how to make it a few months after i first tried it. I was of course selling it so i could make money to make more so i could sell it to make money to make more......... Eventullay my house got raided, and i spent my 21st birthday in a meeting with the DEA to determine if I was going to jail for 20-30 years or not. Even after that i continued using for another year or 2, until i hit rock bottom. To quit, i had to lock myself in my parents house for 6 months. I literally did not go outside. If i did, my parents told me i could not come back. Crystal meth one of the most purely evil things on this planet.

Some of you guys really need to do some reasearch on these things.
www.erowid.org is probably a good place to start.

Yes - it is highly addictive stuff, the problem is there is no "high" as such and users tend to keep taking more to try to achive something that isnt possible. Also the fact that tollerance to it is very quick.

Addiction Potential
Methamphetamine causes significant tolerance, as well as psychological dependence. This combination can be particularly bad because the user is likely to have strong cravings for more meth, while at the same time being unable to reach a satisfactory high. Withdrawal from high doses can produce severe depress

It really isnt that great.

The problem you will have is getting this person to stop. Depending on how heavy his usage is there are some things you need to take into concideration

Addiction and Withdrawal
Users of large amount of amphetamines over a long period of time can develop an amphetamine psychosis, which is a mental disorder similar to paranoid schizophrenia. The psychosis is manifested by hallucinations, delusions, and paranoia. Bizarre, sometime violent, behavior is exhibited by those with amphetamine psychosis. Symptoms usually disappear within a few weeks after drug use stops.

Withdrawal Symptoms
Amphetamines have the potential to produce tolerance, which means that increased amounts of the drug are needed to achieve the desired effects. Withdrawal symptoms can occur when use of amphetamines is stopped abruptly. Users may experience fatigue; long, disturbed periods of sleep; irritability; intense hunger, and moderate to severe depression. The length and severity of the depression is related to how much and how often amphetamines were used.

* craving
* exhaustion
* depression
* mental confusion
* restlessness and insomnia
* deep or disturbed sleep lasting up to 48 hours
* extreme hunger
* psychotic reaction
* anxiety reactions

It will be hard to "treat" this person without getting him to either acknowlege that he is addicted. I would really recommend talking to him about it as a friend. If he is addicted - you dont want to be forcefull in trying to stop him as this could just make it worse.

A hard situation you have here if it really is a problem.

cicika wrote:I heard that stuff is realy tricky and can create addiction very fast. There's no crystal meth in Europe, at least I wouldn't know of it.

Since its so easy to manufacture - its pretty much everywhere.

blinker wrote:talready stained your blood(correct me if im wrong), those who are moderate user they only use it for some good reason, ex. work overtime. ^^.

Yes i agree Floyd, on you also their is no right amount in using this drug.
What if theyre realy is a self control? do u make any exception?

Is thier a way in sanitizing the blood for a drug test?

It doesnt stain your blood at all, but it does stay in your system for between 24-48 hours after use. The only way for it to not appear in a drug test is to stop it completely for enough time to take the test.

Disclaimer: I do not condone the use of drugs

Hey floyd u got a cool experience, u rili have the guts to do those things. deym ur cool. ^^, its a good thing that you already stopped. that's the best thing youve done. good for you.

im just a moderate user of it. i rili cant consider myself as an addict nor my friends, in our country meth its not pure and its not that rili strong, the effect last only for 18-24hrs.
nweiz, can u teach me how to make it? i just want to know how to make it. that's all. ^^,

It doesnt stain your blood at all, but it does stay in your system for between 24-48 hours after use. The only way for it to not appear in a drug test is to stop it completely for enough time to take the test.

is this tested and proven?
^^,

Floyd is it ok to pm you? O.o

All I can say is that Paul Erdős used meth and drank coffee his whole life and he was a brilliant mathematician. My favorite anecdote is:

Colleagues worried that Erdös might have become addicted. In 1979, he accepted a $500 bet from his friend Ronald Graham. Graham challenged Erdős to abstain from speed for 30 days. Erdős met the challenge, but his output sank dramatically. Erdős felt the progress of mathematics had been held up by a stupid wager.

Mmmm...are speed and meth the same

Not exactly the same but similar i think.