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Postby maiong on Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:12 am

Unsure if anyone has heard the recent news but North Korea had launched two short-range missles and Japan reported that they launched a third one that was a long-range.

For those who have heard about this, how do you guys feel this would affect the rest of the world and especially N.Korea?
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Re: N.Korea

Postby altmind on Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:55 pm

maiong wrote:Unsure if anyone has heard the recent news but North Korea had launched two short-range missles and Japan reported that they launched a third one that was a long-range.

For those who have heard about this, how do you guys feel this would affect the rest of the world and especially N.Korea?


personally /me think that this wouldn't affect in any way
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Postby Heikanu on Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:33 pm

Well, I also read that even the long-range missile, could barely come to Alaska at Max, and that it crashed during this test!
So, I don't think it would make such an huge impact!
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Postby Samppa on Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:36 pm

If the missile were launched, and it did reach Alaska, how can you say it would not make a big impact?

USA are screwed at the moment, they have a lot on their hands. A missile launch on Alaska would prompt war, but alas, not enough troops. At that point, Iraq loses out, war in N. Korea with whatever conclusion will kill many and Iraq will become unstabler as the soldiers have to pull out. Impact: Deaths, unstable(r) political situation in the whole of Asia, US economy and spirit, world economy.. Maybe then someone else will have a pop at the weakened US?


Also bare in mind, the missile could be launched any way, and the last time I checked the countries surrounding N. Korea were not divided by the Pacific Ocean. Even a launch of the smaller missile (which works beautifully btw), would cause war, unstableness and economic damage all around the world.


Altough I don't believe the missiles are nothing but provokation due to the nuclear talks and surely the hostile way they were held, and perhaps they wanted to show off what they can do, the missiles still pose a threat as they tighten the already strained relationship N. Korea has with other countries. Besides, when (if?) something does happen, N. Korea is better prepared to attack or retaliate than it was before.



It wasn't a good move from N. Korea, but I don't think they intended it to be.
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Postby Awong on Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:35 am

N. Korea at this point really doesn't care how it stands in the global community. The missile launches were really just a way of flexing their muscles. The problem is, everyone knows that a nuclear war is a war to mutual destruction, so everyone is a bit uncertain as to where their next actions should lie.

Oh, and the long-range missile was capable of hitting parts of US quite easily. I don't think it crashing was unintentional. It was very much planned. The fact they launched yet another missile after a convening of the Security Council was a fair indication that they don't care what other people think.
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Postby zeep on Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:47 am

This doesn't impact me personally, but I think if it starts some sort of war and other countries see it as an act of war and hostility, it will impact me. Most likely, if the US in involved, Bush will try and bring Canada into the picture and Harper will most likely accept, and so then it might affect me. (not sure, it might be the same as canadian troops in iraq)

But anyway, I think it was stupid for N. Korea to launch missiles but if they wanted it to be an act of hostility or whatever then I think they got their wish... ? :/
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Postby Awong on Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:24 am

I'd be interested to see how much support even the US would get for retaliating. The problem is, the US is pretty much a superpower, and their status in the Security Council grants them the power to veto any sanctions against them. Even if sanctions are placed, they can rather successfully ignore them.
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Postby Myst on Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:13 pm

This is actually a pretty dangerous threat. This shows us that the north koreans are capable of doing life-threatening acts. What the global community should really do is seriously put sanctions on the north koreans, as the US have said before. This might stop the funds/technology that the north koreans get and this would hopefully divert and future plans of theres. But all this waiting around and debating wethear to put the sanctions on is giving the north koreans more time to develop, rather than slowing the process down.
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Postby Awong on Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:33 am

Two problems.

A) Does N. Korea really care if sanctions, in particular trading sanctions, are imposed on them? The level of economic activity flowing between the western nations and N. Korea is minimal at best.

B) Economic sanctions are more likely to affect the imposers rather than the imposee (N. Korea). With an increasing global economy, the level of integration puts the global economy at a larger disadvantage.

This only leaves sanctions such as the placement of global military personel in N. Korea, which could, and would be construed as an act of war rather than a military slap on the wrist.
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Postby ohplzno on Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:58 pm

Another World War? I don't know, possibility maybe, but I doubt it. I only say possibility because Venezula is arming up too. North Korea is launching missiles and everytime it does, it digs a deeper hole for itself. I wonder how bad this whole situation is going to get.
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Postby SoLveD on Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:05 am

personally i think that we should evacuate the people out of korea and bomb the f*** out of them until the ruling council is gone... then go back in and start a new government...i dont think korea has much that they can do..and the whole talks with trading with them and having other countries financially assist them didnt seem to work... if they were smart they would atleast take the financial aid and try to rebuild their financial status "then" try and take on the world.. they must be eatting some bomb ass rice or something... they want to war with nothing but those weak rockets... japan is pissed cause they think they might be hit... but they have money and they know that they have something implemented if a war was to come up... lying with thier little beady eyes they are.. all of them!!! rofl
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Postby callihn on Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:54 am

Heikanu wrote:Well, I also read that even the long-range missile, could barely come to Alaska at Max


You read wrong my friend CNN shows a graph and they can reach the majority of North America. Wink

You are refuring to the MEDIUM RANGE Taepo-dong 1:

* Medium-range ballistic missile
* Estimated range: 3,500 miles

Not the LONG RANGE Taepo-dong 2:

* Long-range ballistic missile
* (Under development)
* Estimated range: 4,500 miles
* Reportedly capable of striking targets as far as Milwaukee or Dallas

That being said be afraid, be very afraid, because North Korea doesn't have much to lose and when they slide down that hill a little more and start feeling like they have nothing to lose there could be some serious problems.

The real problem is all this talk of sanctions, that's what got them to this point in the first place, they are starving to death in the street over there, more sanctions will surely start a nuclear war, we need to hit them, take out their nukes and then take them out and it needed to be done some time ago.
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Postby Myst on Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:06 pm

personally i think that we should evacuate the people out of korea and bomb the f*** out of them until the ruling council is gone... then go back in and start a new government...


No we shouldnt bomb the "fuck" out of them because that would cause even more problems. We don't want another Hiroshima or another Iraq.

Remember South Korea is just fine, what needs to be done is that there needs to be a rebellion within north korea to topple the dictatorship. The united states CIA has done this secretly in many countries before and they should consider doing it again in this situation. Once the dictatorship is toppled the North and South Korea can be whole once again rather than a seperate North and South.

But yeah we shouldnt bomb them....realistically, i think the US will handle North Korea like they do with Cuba and Castro... [/quote]
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Postby Will on Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:59 pm

Myst wrote:No we shouldnt bomb the "f***" out of them because that would cause even more problems. We don't want another Hiroshima or another Iraq.


The thing that N. Korea realizes, is that any invasion of themselves would result in a conventional war, not an idealistic one. The North Koreans aren't being as obnoxious as they could be, because their population isn't inflamed by religion or ideal. And while the American army frankly isn't designed for policing (Iraq), they are designed for conventional warfar.
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Postby Myst on Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:03 am

So are you saying that north korea isnt acting that much of an ass because they know the US would beat them in a conventional war..?
oh and what do you mean by a conventional war
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