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Actually, as time goes by i find myself asking "how the hell did i use windows?"
i mean, it looked simple those days, but now, looking back, and watching how vista and linux evolve, linux is WAY more intuitive... and the package menagers are one of the gratest things that happend to software ever...

I use linux for everything - except gaming. (When my PC is working... I'm using my laptop now, this has only XP) I hate Maxtor, this is my 3rd that gone wrong, but this time the warranty is over... So I'm waiting for my 2x250 GB Western Digital now, it depends on shipping.

But I will install Linux as soon as I get it

BSD dude 100% becuase its a little more easier to install packages also they have a hug PORTS collection whihc is almost 300Mb so theres a lot of software precompiled for you

I`ve use both OS systems and I think that Linux is better{i`m not a gamer that`s why weak point of linux gaming didn`t boders me}, but I should say that if u want to use LInux u should read a few pages before using LINUX, bacause its quite different from win. People who use WIn are people who don`t want to develop they knoledges and the only things they understand while acting in win enviroment is clicing 'next' withou even realised what they`re doing, big part of people are like these ones who don`t even know what to do wiht they`re computers. BUT at past few years a lot of people direct to more stable and relyable OS LINUX because it offers new enviroment different from WIn`s one, which gives u way to make it like u what, and that`s the most strong point od LINUX u can develop it like u want, and there`re no baunderis everuthings depend on your abilities.Even the fact that I`m using right now WIN, i`m definetely fo LINux...and sooner i gonna join the linux society..and this time i hope so i`ll take few books..and i`ll read a few pages about how to act with linux

In my opinion (which doesn't really have any validity) both operating systems have their target audience, the difference being that since computers (most of them, unless you build it yourself) come pre-installed with windows, thus the user learns how to use that, and rarelly goes out of their comfort zone (windows OS) to try a different operating system ( *nix/macOS/OS2).

Now if the question is, which is the better operating system, my answer is linux, simply because it's more manuerable (sp?) than windows, and less conflicting with the operations i run on my computer, since most of them have been coded to work on *nix.

Other than that, i just have to say one thing:

Waffles.

I must addmit i never used linux but from the things I have heard about it, it's better then win XP

For programmer, no doubt Linux is better

bat wrote:Here Here. Though another thing you can do if you have the knowhow is to run VMWare on top of your linux distro. I am totally blind and windows is still the more blind accessible for things like web browsing.

First, there are many projects for zooming a lot on a screen if you're only partly visually impaired in the GNU/Linux world.

Second, a big advantage of FOSS is the necessity for serious devs to stick as strictly as possible to open standards and the search for interoperability. In the case of the web, the W3C standards commitee have high on their agenda these accessibilty problems, and you must know it, Mozilla for example complies far better to these standards than IE right now. As long as content providers try their best to respect their audience in following those standards, going the FOSS way is still your best option (for example, content providers should REALLY provide an alternate attribute for any image they use, so that visually impaired people still can have at least an idea of what's that image is all about).

Third, in the case of web surfing, as people won't need images anyway, an all text browser like links/lynx would be far superior to a normal browser, which is unfortunately the primary target for content providers and masks completely the fact that ergonomic interfaces for viewing people can be a complete mess for blind ones.

linux is much better and if you want a sujesst use ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/ ) (it use X and ship FREE Cds)

Well, i'm not the big gamer, but i still uses Windows, cause i like to be able to game when ever i wan't to and because i sit on a crappy old box, i don't have that much power, and that would be even less when emulating
BUT, i have been using Ubuntu for a month or so, and it was REALLY easy
But i still think Linux, pretty much alot of distroes, needs that little bit more of easy user interface, you know, like when you wan't to install a program you almost always have to compile it or go to the terminal to install, i think that is pretty bad, because the average Joe does not know alot of commands for the shell, or have the time to sit down and become part of a community.

But then on the other hand i have to admit that Linux runs Java really smooth compared to my win box

I haven't tried Linux, so i will give my vote for Windows.

1sy8 wrote:

bat wrote:Here Here. Though another thing you can do if you have the knowhow is to run VMWare on top of your linux distro. I am totally blind and windows is still the more blind accessible for things like web browsing.

First, there are many projects for zooming a lot on a screen if you're only partly visually impaired in the GNU/Linux world.

Second, a big advantage of FOSS is the necessity for serious devs to stick as strictly as possible to open standards and the search for interoperability. In the case of the web, the W3C standards commitee have high on their agenda these accessibilty problems, and you must know it, Mozilla for example complies far better to these standards than IE right now. As long as content providers try their best to respect their audience in following those standards, going the FOSS way is still your best option (for example, content providers should REALLY provide an alternate attribute for any image they use, so that visually impaired people still can have at least an idea of what's that image is all about).

Third, in the case of web surfing, as people won't need images anyway, an all text browser like links/lynx would be far superior to a normal browser, which is unfortunately the primary target for content providers and masks completely the fact that ergonomic interfaces for viewing people can be a complete mess for blind ones.

You make some good points, however, firstly, I am totally blind, not just partly so all those zooming projects don't work for me at all. The only *nix screen reader that is half way decent is speakup. things like yasr don't work as well because they don't read bootup messages and so on, thus I would never know if I got a kernel panic. The only problem is that there are few compiled kernels with speakup built into them, and pretty much none of those have headers and source available which means I can't compile any new modules or drivers what so ever. To add onto that, Speakup has thus far stimeyed me because it won't compile into any kernel I've tried thus far. Now, the problem I have with links, elinks, and lynx is that though they are text based, Microsoft inept exploder and jaws for windows (the primary windows based screen reader) work very well together in the way that jaws will read the HTML coding right from IE and I can hit one shortcut key to be zapped to the next elements on any given page like buttons, frames, form fields and so on. Any of the text based browsers take alot more scrolling and take longer to use in my opinion. Furthermore, I still haven't found a text based browser that supports java and most don't even support headings or frames which makes it a pain to read long doccuments. Anyway, I hope I got at least some of what I was trying to say across. But all this is why I still use winblows, even if it's just a virtual machine in a linux box.

sioux wrote:I haven't tried Linux, so i will give my vote for Windows.

Uh Oh having a shell is going to be very interesting for you then. I'll be seeing you in tech support?

h4x0rDude wrote:For programmer, no doubt Linux is better

I agree

i do use windows just for MM works ...
i do prefer linux .. as server and all network things ...its an Great firewall

i love to work on linux