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The House debated a draft bill yesterday on 6/6/6. This is not good my friends! Who thinks it'll pass?

Universal National Service Act of 2006 - HR 4752

The date is of no consequence.

I haven't heard anything about this, is that true? U.S would be nearing the state of Russia with that.


If it is true, surely they can't consider passing it? It'd be political suicide if nothing else.

Well the bill is surely real, but I dunno if it'll pass. And for the date, maybe not but it's still interesting.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.4752.IH:

what was the bill all about?

Dr^Heart wrote:what was the bill all about?

Read the first post and click the link

FTA wrote:On February 14, 2006, Congressman Charles Rangel (Democrat - NY) introduced a bill (Universal National Service Act of 2006 - HR 4752 IH) aiming at drafting everyone - men and women alike - from the ages of 18 to 42 into the military for a minimum period of 2 years.

By a Democrat no less, and from NY! It seems less like a 'hidden draft' then more of a movement towards Israel's style of military.

Still, it'd be nice to see those damn feminists drafted.

U.S would be nearing the state of Russia with that.

What do you understand by this, Samppa?

Vihtor wrote:

U.S would be nearing the state of Russia with that.

What do you understand by this, Samppa?

Well they (you?) have compulsory army training which lasts two years. Nothing offensive though.

Interestingly, even you seem have prejudices against russia for getting defensive about it

Well they (you?) have compulsory army training which lasts two years. Nothing offensive though.

Yes, we have. But do not forget that this army has centuries-old military glory, it routed completely fascists and had been forming a basis of the leading world country till 90th years of the last century. I am assured that, earlier and now (in most cases, not looking on partial degradation), army forms from boys the real men, they pass school of a life there. By the way, during Soviet times the young man could not count on the favourable attitude from girls if he had not served in the army.
New transformations have rendered essential influence on army. As well as many other things in the country, it has not become better. However it naturally becomes more and more contract and professional now. By the way, service life is reduced to one year beginning from 2008. There are alternative kinds of service, if you are the pacifist, for example. And, as it was and earlier, nobody will force you to serve in army if you are the student, have the child or old parents, have problems with the health, and in many other reasonable cases.

Interestingly, even you seem have prejudices against russia for getting defensive about it

I do not know, why you think so. I'm from Russia. I love my country and its people. On the other hand I see some things with which I can not agree. Basically it is connected with spineless foreign policy, internal problems with crime and corruption in authority. Therefore, I'm ready to support constructive criticism, but also to answer with defence on prejudiced opinion in relation to my country.

well i personally think a draft would piss off the american people... we had one once and look how people reacted to it then. also i think that we are a civilization that are evolving...and we should go ahead and try to figure out some way to end wars... or atleast war in a different way...like over a game of chess... or hand the warring parties a rubix cube..lol.. actually i guess war is a effective way of population control as well... we are expanding very quickly... so maybe war is a good thing after all....=/

It's nothing new really they are just re-introducing the draft, though the age of forty two is a bit much since currently the cut of age for enlistment is thirty four.

Other than that fact however it is a necessary evil if we expect to remain who we are and a draft is nothing compaired to ther contries like Russia where it is mandatory to do military service upoun reaching the age of eightteen regardless of the state of the nation.

What's wrong with national service? It's a blast