Global Warming

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Global warming will..

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kill mankind and other species, if nothing is done.
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warm up the planet slightly, if nothing is done.
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die away, people will forget it soon.
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What is global warming?
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Global Warming

Postby Samppa on Wed May 24, 2006 2:52 pm

So, any thoughts?

With reports that the climate change can be up to 70% more potent than what has been estimated over the past few years, and now Sir David Attenborough, British king of nature, has voiced his concerns, what do you think will happen?

I've included a poll (will run for ~ a month) in case you can't be bothered to post.
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Postby Myst on Wed May 24, 2006 6:03 pm

global warming should very much be a top priority of ours as a global community to cure. If we don't do anything to stop it or slow it down then our later generations will feel the wraith of it. And that would be selfish on our part if we just sit back and do nothing and think "hey, ill be dead by the time it becomes a BIG problem." I say we bring in the Alien civilizations to help us out or somthing Razz
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Postby thanjee on Sat May 27, 2006 1:24 am

I live in the northern part of Australia. In summer time the temperature sits around 40C for about 3 months, which is about 104F - yes it is hot. Estimates on global warming in my area predict a 10C rise over the next 50 years. So in 50 years time the temperature will sit around 50C (122F) during the long summer months. I believe in central Asutralia it will be even hotter. Some people there already live underground because it is too hot. I imagine we will be moving underground here too - either that or generate huge electricity bills for the air conditioning. The first solution to start reducing green house emissions is to outlaw coal based power generators. It is the most inefficiant form of power, and it uses tonnes of coal everyday - which generates tonnes of smog, and produces barely any power.
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Postby MinoIlRosso on Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:41 pm

That's what mankind deserves.
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Postby Samppa on Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:01 am

MinoIlRosso wrote:That's what mankind deserves.


I don't think I, or any living creature that is on Earth, deserves to die because companies are greedy. It's not only humans that will suffer, it will affect every life form on earth (bar bacteria). They deserve it too?
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Postby Vihtor on Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:21 am

I think, that global warming becomes the next trump in hands of affirming governmental and financial structures, which they will play to show efficiency of their work. It was necessary to the USA to struggle against something, now they struggle against terrorism, depriving with their human rights, but struggle. Thus not forgetting to direct everywhere their, as they consider the correct, world order. And anything even if at this order innocent peaple being killed, in fact the main thing is the expansion of their military presence. I agree, that it is necessary to struggle with terrorists, but not at such price.
I think, that the nature will return all on their places, as did it earlier. There were, and not smaller, changes of a climate and before us, simply study this question more widely, not being based only on loud statements and assumptions of visible political and "scientific" figures. Yes, the flooding of London or other phenomena is possible, but they occured on our planet and earlier. It is necessary to take the certain measures, but it is not necessary to give in to an excessive agiotage. Furthermore, scientists assuring everyone, that observable warming has the one origin - in human activity, are in minority. On the other hand, many people speak about it, but a few of them can be named by knowing man (scientist).
It's just my IMHO.
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Postby Samppa on Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:12 pm

It's a funny coincidence though isn't it?
The industrial revolution occurs and suddenly the earth starts to warm rapidly.


If global warming is true (imo it is), it's likely to cause a chain effect and start a circle where it just gets warmer and warmer, feeding on itself. Nature would return to normal, but it would take tens of thousands of years, enough to kill off lots of species.

Besides, even if man isn't doing much to add to it, it's still too much. Man should not be interfering with nature like that.
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Postby babu on Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:52 am

not enough evidences that global warming is the cause of all the weather problem problems in the world. Theories do exist but still lacking solid proof. It just could be natural cycle that earth takes. Even if this is true i won't be around to see the effect. So lets gets drunk and party till that day comes \o/
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Postby Samppa on Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:11 pm

It is a natural cycle. Humans speed it up.

As for the last part of your post, Rolling Eyes
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Postby SirAdrian on Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:25 pm

it's exactly as Clausius said : the death of the world is the termical death.
global warming leads to homogenousness. which means there will be no more movement.
that's bad I guess
that's if you don't like the idea that death leads to wisdom
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Postby Will on Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:29 am

*Runs around screaming* No such thing as global warming!!!


"The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) says the global average surface temperature increased about 0.6 degrees Celsius over the twentieth century" (Stossel 201).

"If our fossil-fuel burning is respondsible for the warming, something doesn't add up. Half of the global warming of the past century happened from 1900 to 1945. If man is responsible, why wasn't there much more warming in the second half of the century? We burned much more fuel during that time... the planet is just in a gradual warming trend, coming out of what scientists call the "Little Ice Age", which ended in the 1800s. Our climate has always undergone changes... A graph of temperatures over the past four thousand years shows today's warming isn't such a big deal. (Stossel 202).

Graphs are not from the book;

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BP stands for 'Before Present'

Now, according to the NOAA Paleoclimatology Comittee, 2000 has brought us to +0.5 degrees Celsius, which is nowhere near the Holocene Maximum, which were the hottest temperatures humanity has lived through.

Comparisons of CO2 totals at http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFoss ... k_yrs.html

EDIT: Oh forgot to list the book:

Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity by John Stossel
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Re: Global warming

Postby lyndz on Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:31 am

I got cough and colds for almost 3 weeks due to this weather abnormality.. Global warming for me can really kill us(imho,in my experience)..

As the "Manila Times" said: Cold nights attributed to global warming

Global warming is causing the unusually cold nights that have gripped Metro Manila the weather bureau said.. -http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2005/mar/07/yehey/top_stories/20050307top4.html
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Postby Samppa on Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:53 am

nighthawk wrote:*Runs around screaming* No such thing as global warming!!!


Well that's just plain wrong.
The climate goes through circles of warmer and colder weather, because of the something or other things, and global warming as we know it has happened in the past naturally.

Whether the phenomenon is strengthened by man, is another matter.
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Postby Will on Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:27 am

Samppa wrote:Well that's just plain wrong.
The climate goes through circles of warmer and colder weather, because of the something or other things, and global warming as we know it has happened in the past naturally.

Whether the phenomenon is strengthened by man, is another matter.


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Postby Sainted on Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:19 am

Millions of years ago it was a comet, now it's global warming, massive destruction of earth beings will continue to occur, and only the strongest will survive Wink
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