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hi.. I'm a web-developer too.. I started off developing website using ASP than I was introduced into PHP. I personally think that PHP is like one of the most powerful and easiest web application language to learn and there's many open source developers out there helping out in building classes and stuffs making fellow developers do their application faster and easier.

Try mastering in CSS and if possible, AJAX. I'm currently learning AJAX and trying to implement them in any projects I do. I believe that AJAX will really help in user exprience. It's fast and takes up lower data transfer. the thing i love about AJAX is that the page doesn't need to be refreshed when the user do a submit on form or any kind of request.

You might want to learn to do flash animations than to games development in flash. actually, game development is not as difficult as you think when doing in flash. when you master how flash uses movie clips and stuffs and have a hold on action script, i believe you can do great and fun games in flash..

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w3schools and books will definatly help :p

for becoming a web developer or a web programmer its best to start off with html and then learn css , then move onto xhtml to make the pages more tidy , then javascript and dhtml , after that most basic site types can be made (learning graphic design is also good)

moving onto database driven sites like , forums , cms , members area you should learn php and mysql and learn to make mysql and php driven sites then adapt it into your basic designing languages (xhtml , dhtml , java , css)

then you can do most sites for anything really easily,

i wouldnt reccomend flash for just web developers (unless your mad on graphic design)

otherwise befriend a graphic designer and wait until they owe you a favour lol

knedl wrote:If you want to be a web developer you started ok, html is the basic in web designing, then you should try a little bit of xhtml (similar to html) and then a bit of CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) and try putting these two together (html + CSS), after that you could try some simple php scripts and adding them to html files, but if you wanna learn php you mightaswell learn MySQL to to store data of guestbooks and stuff like that, after you got all this in your brain start some javascripts and last try designing in flash, I am currenltly doing something in flash but mostly for fun or if i'm bored

Good luck!

Greetz.

i wouldn't bother with css since most the browsers don't suppport it fully.

pbaptiste wrote:i wouldn't bother with css since most the browsers don't suppport it fully.

I don't know where did you get your info from but I'd suggest checking it again..

JaMaHa wrote:

pbaptiste wrote:i wouldn't bother with css since most the browsers don't suppport it fully.

I don't know where did you get your info from but I'd suggest checking it again..

CSS support was introduced in Internet Explorer *4*. CSS 1 is supported by any modern browser, including IE.

since you learned perl, you might try to look into perl's cgi module. this is the module that allows you to create html pages without having to explicitly type in all the tedious html header code for example. next i would suggest dbi module to interface with mysql. many html pages nowadays have a mysql backend and you need to know how your script can bridge the gap between the presentation (html) and the data (mysql database), in a webpage.

i wouldn't bother with css since most the browsers don't suppport it fully.

Oh, c'mon...

ofcourse you need to know as much scripting l. as you can but very important thing is to be creative , original... think of something new
When you surff the net and see some interesing site (take a look at source) see how it function...

Good JavaScript docmentation and tutorial info are sometimes really difficult to find. Here's a few things I've found along the way:

* Mozilla developer documentation from the guys who created JavaScript at Netscape eons ago.
* QuirksMode: A Polish hacker who knows his stuff and has done a few tutorials
* W3C's DOM page: DOM is the way that JavaScript interacts with HTML. All the formal specs are here, it's slightly heavy reading.

And to clear up confusion JavaScript is nothing like Java. It's probably closer to Lisp than anything else.

Ok, everything is already said about the different languages which will help/are important however, dont forget the other side! As mention before learn stuff about actual desiging, this means, don't sit behind your computer and type code all day but learn to understand the concepts behind succesfull webdesign. This involves learning about colour assosciations (colours mean different things in other cultures!), make sure you are on the same level as your custommer, in proffessional webdesign alot of work is done without writing a single line of code!. Often when you work for paying customers you need to explain why you made certain choices, these choices can be based on anything (eg: the website of competing company's might require your custommers website to include alot more functionality then he asked for, you will need to be able to explain why he needs feature X ore Y).

Deskresearch is highly important, you might not find it as fun as the actual designing but without understanding all surrounding aspects your 'fancy' site might not reach its goal.

Conclusion: There's alot more then scripting/computer skills needed if you want to be a succesfull webdesigner!