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by **Pinkbyte** on Sat May 06, 2006 11:33 am

Tim wrote:Also rubbish, new age processors will all die if the cooling is missing for x hours/days. If you're talking about P2's and stuff then you might be right, I never used AMD processors back then.

If systems didn't require cooling to operate then cooling would be absolutely useless wouldn't it (unless you just wanted a cold case for some reason...).

I have 3 Athlon type systems running around the clock here, none of ever failed and since we got the first AthlonXP we have had 2 P4's fry. My experience suggests that it is actually the opposite to what you're saying but like I said, that is my experience, it will be different for everyone based on operating environments and such.

My computer's cooling system had been broked for two monthes. I listen very bad sounds from cooler, sometimes it did not work at all! Then my processor froze for ten seconds, but not broke. Can you explain this? When something happened with AMD processor of my friend it broke very fast, also with it was killed motherboard...

by **Samppa** on Sat May 06, 2006 11:48 am

The effect of the cooler depends on the temperature surrounding the computer and what you are using the computer for.

It is not uncommon for other computer parts to fall apart when one of them dies.

by **Tim** on Sun May 07, 2006 12:21 am

Pinkbyte wrote:My computer's cooling system had been broked for two monthes. I listen very bad sounds from cooler, sometimes it did not work at all! Then my processor froze for ten seconds, but not broke. Can you explain this? When something happened with AMD processor of my friend it broke very fast, also with it was killed motherboard...

I did explain this.

Tim wrote:it will be different for everyone based on operating environments and such.

I can almost guarantee I have a more powerful system than yours (see the PC config topic) and I am also rather confident I have a much worse cooling system than you (I have a few fans which just help the hot air leave the case, nothing more). My PC has never failed due to anything other than power issues and it maintains a nice uptime.

by **Pinkbyte** on Sun May 07, 2006 2:00 pm

Of course, Tim, if you have nice cooling system this topic is useless for you. But those, what about those who have not? If processor can stay alive when cooler is broke, it is advantage, is not it?

Sammpa, both i and my friend using computers for gaming. I also used it for programming, but not regularly. But my computer stay alive and his not... Temperature in our houses was the same, maybe two graduces difference.

by **Tim** on Sun May 07, 2006 9:29 pm

Pinkbyte wrote:Of course, Tim, if you have nice cooling system this topic is useless for you. But those, what about those who have not? If processor can stay alive when cooler is broke, it is advantage, is not it?

Pretty sure I said that I would assume I have a much worse cooling system than you Wink

by **raich** on Mon May 08, 2006 8:37 pm

I'd prefer Pentium, if i was rich! Very Happy

I think thier expensive CPU's are great, but they are too expensive. With the budget of a not too payed person i prefer AMD, because i think their cheaper CPU's are much better the Pentuim's CPU's that costs the same.

by **Dutchy** on Wed May 10, 2006 11:52 am

I prefer AMD.
When I bought the first AMD it was for the money, intel is so expensive...
But now a days it's not only for the money, AMD works just better for me. Smile

I must confess I do have an intel (dual core) in my laptop..

by **enquiry** on Fri May 12, 2006 1:16 pm

i have a qns.. which processor will have a more effective overclocking?

by **JaMaHa** on Fri May 12, 2006 4:23 pm

I don't really know about their differences but I think I'll stick with AMD.

by **lyndz** on Sat May 13, 2006 10:08 am

Since I got a computer which is pentium up to now it's pentium 4, it's fast and reliable... I don't know much on AMD(s).. So, i would prefer the Intel one... Smile

by **mix25** on Thu May 18, 2006 1:53 pm

AMD certainly, the quality of work is an almost the same thing that pentium and also I cost you much less than pentium that in the end it is good.

mine AMD is Duron 1.3 GHZ ,is very old no? Razz

by **Tavy** on Thu May 18, 2006 3:03 pm

AMD. For numerous reasons:

Heat.
Performance.
Price.

And most of all lately, I refuse to support DRM or this

Trusted

Computing intel is into as of late. For those of you who don't know what TC is, you can refer to

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
and:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html

Cheers all.

by **slabby** on Sun May 21, 2006 4:50 pm

I love my AMD processors... ive allways found less problems with them and found them easier to overclock (which I love doing)...

by **Red_cell** on Tue May 23, 2006 8:03 pm

AMD, they have best performance at lower prices and the new 64bits dual cores rlz

by **Noir** on Sun May 28, 2006 1:12 pm

I cant say i like or dislike either or
im running intel here now but i also run amd in other pcs and i think they both do their jobs, The intel conroe lookes really promising so i might be leaning that way for a future upgrade.

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