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I have done SETI (search for ET) for a years as now all the data has been completed is there anything out there??

I'd say, from a logical standpoint since the univserse is 'near' infinite, the fact that so far there is only one life sustaining planet in our galaxy isn't a problem.
There are hundreds of galaxies. While the creation of life on our planet happened in a somewhat haphazard way, I think it's ludricris to state that in an almost infinite amount of space, we are the only life. However, this life needs not to be intelligent. I believe since we havn't discovered any Von Neumann-type probes any other nearby life must not be too advanced.

It depends on what you mean by advanced, humans can be classed advanced but we don't have no neumann probes either. Some mars explorators etc sure, but nothing the article describes.

As to the number of galaxies the current estimate is anywhere between 10 to a 100 billion galaxies in the known universe.

Also, there could be tons of intelligent life in the universe. But because the distances between the galaxies and solar systems are immense, the chances of any of them catching a glimpse of each other is pretty small. We have SETI, but how much are we sending out? What if everyone is just listening but not transmitting etc.

In a word, imo, the chances of us ever knowing for sure are, err.. small. Even if everyone was sending out signals etc.
And besides, who wants a war of the worlds, since that's what would happen anyway.

Samppa wrote:It depends on what you mean by advanced, humans can be classed advanced but we don't have no neumann probes either.

We don't have any Neumann probes.

I'd considor any ET with intelligence like our own intellectually deficient, and not at all advanced.

As to the number of galaxies the current estimate is anywhere between 10 to a 100 billion galaxies in the known universe.

not to mention the fact that there may be an infinite amount of univereses, each with all those galaxies...

it is incredulous to me that we are all alone.

nighthawk wrote:

Samppa wrote:It depends on what you mean by advanced, humans can be classed advanced but we don't have no neumann probes either.

We don't have any Neumann probes.

I'd considor any ET with intelligence like our own intellectually deficient, and not at all advanced.

But you don't know what is advanced now do you
You can only assume it's more than what we have now, but who knows if we're not the most advanced species in the whole universe.

btw, the no I stuck in between 'we don't have no neumann probes' doesn't mean anything, read the sentence as 'we don't have neumann probes'. In case someone was wondering about the use of double negativity.

Well probability would say given the vast Universe, we should have a chance of having beings closer to or equal to our intellectual level.

But then for all we know the most intelligent beings in this world could be anywhere and be microscopic in size. They probably do or did receive our SETI signals and ignored us since we are so dumb according to their measurement of intellectuality.

Samppa wrote:But you don't know what is advanced now do you
You can only assume it's more than what we have now, but who knows if we're not the most advanced species in the whole universe.

That may be true, but on a relative scale. That doesn't mean on the whole we are advanced. Put two little Amazonian tribes together. One will be more 'advanced' then the other, but it doesn't mean the tribe is 'advanced' on its own. Since we have only had 'successful' society for a few thousand years, we're still in our infancy.

Samppa wrote:btw, the no I stuck in between 'we don't have no neumann probes' doesn't mean anything, read the sentence as 'we don't have neumann probes'. In case someone was wondering about the use of double negativity.

Nah, I knew what you were trying to say, I was just being a grammar-whore

there may be many species and forms of life out there. the vast distances can make comunication and travel all but impossible to the most incredibly advanced of them, or those that do not require a physical structure.

Also there may have been many many lifeforms that have started, evolved, and become extinct, dissaperaed in the time we have taken to get to our present level.