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What is with the support Denmark sticker? Is that for the cartoon incident?

I live in Denmark and I think there is so much to say on this topic that we need to be a little more specific. I would say if you talk about people, then we have a lot to learn from Europe and they have a lot to learn as well. It is a shame that we do not work closer together these days with common world issues. I think the UN sucks at getting that job done, and we need a more direct approach other then a forum like the UN. However, I do not want a world dictator or global president either. Any ideas?

Err.. What common world issues? And what's wrong with the UN?

Maybe you should come out of the sauna once and a while

Well other then our common problem with integrating other cultures, don't know if that is an issue in Finland, here is an example:

http://forums.phoenix-hosting.org/viewtopic.php?t=1857

The UN is too slow to get consensus on issues like these. Each country has too much lust for the things other countries take for granted. If you just look at Europe on this issue, take Norway, why the hell would they care about "peak oil"? They were able to "purchase" their freedom from oil, or more like steal, wells from the Danish government sometime back, and now it is virtually monetary paradise up there. Why the heck would they want to be in the EU? All the European countries will become slaves to countries with the large oil reserves... do you think the UN will be able to solve such a power issue in Europe alone? Take the world. I think that is what the major powers are planning (USA, China, Russia). If USA was not in Iraq, China would be soon enough. If that sounds crazy, why are they building up such a large military -> http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2006/03/27/china_military_buildup_destabilizing_japan_report/?

lol, I just wanted your opinions as I couldn't be arsed to think about your post.

Valid points, but as for the chinese military it could be just showing off to Japan. Sort of like a our penis is bigger than yours.

But I'm too optimistic and ignorant to worry about that, if something big happens what the hell could I have done about it. Yes I could have warned everyone I know and protested against the world, but all that would happen is I could say to my grandchildren, "I was there, I tried to fight it. Failed miserably though..".

Thanks for the feedback. I am trying to be positive in most respects, but I guess it is seeing my son everyday when I get up that pushes me to bring up these issues. If I was single and living on my own, I would probably have the same feelings as you on this. Maybe it’s good enough today, but I do not feel like it is going to be tomorrow.

China has never needed to prove anything to Japan, it has, and always will be the king of Asia, and Japan knows this very well. I am sure the Japanese just want to be respected in the long term when China really gets going. They don't want to be fully dependent on USA when the sh%& hits the fan. So they are pushing China into talks. I think China is going to win that argument every time though, so maybe this is a bold and risky move for the Japanese. I mean they will always be paying for crimes against China during WW2. What concerns me is Taiwan (aka: the floating US factory in Asia). China will probably go to war over this, and I know the USA will end up giving the, "are you with me or against me" approach. I just hope Bush is out before this becomes an issue. Oil is also playing a big roll in all of this, and I would not guess that Taiwan is being used as an excuse for the US to kick China out of the oil party. Once the war is started, the president can call on Europe to help defend Taiwan’s interests. However, underneath a floating factory, is the oil equation every time.

... this topic is not very clear imho
by america do you mean usa or the continent (I assume it is usa)
and europe is composed of nations of different cultures There isnt much similarity between them (but it is some what ok: "generic european" )
....
now!
we have one "generic usa citizen" and "one generic eurapean"
so the difference is ......
nothing

ngunder wrote:China has never needed to prove anything to Japan, it has, and always will be the king of Asia, and Japan knows this very well.

The Japanese colonized most of China historically.

ngunder wrote:What is with the support Denmark sticker? Is that for the cartoon incident?

Yes.

ngunder wrote:I think the UN sucks at getting that job done, and we need a more direct approach other then a forum like the UN.

Don't get me started about the inadequecy of the U.N.

rgos wrote:by america do you mean usa or the continent (I assume it is usa)
and europe is composed of nations of different cultures There isnt much similarity between them we have one "generic usa citizen" and "one generic eurapean"
so the difference is ...... nothing

While there are many different European cultures, and not all of them get along, I would definitly say there is a big difference between the parts of Europe I've been to (Austria, Switzerland, Germany, and France) and the United States. I don't think it's so much of a concious(sp?) decision, but more of a 'new world' versus 'old world' type thing.

rgos wrote:... this topic is not very clear imho
by america do you mean usa or the continent (I assume it is usa)
and europe is composed of nations of different cultures There isnt much similarity between them (but it is some what ok: "generic european" )
....
now!
we have one "generic usa citizen" and "one generic eurapean"
so the difference is ......
nothing

I was thinking about USA when i posted this post ( posted post ), but it could be applicable to all American countries / Australia / and more...

Nighthawk... you wrote "While there are many different European cultures, and not all of them get along, I would definitly say there is a big difference between the parts of Europe I've been to (Austria, Switzerland, Germany, and France) and the United States. I don't think it's so much of a concious(sp?) decision, but more of a 'new world' versus 'old world' type thing." Don't you know Spain ...? it's so different ...

Fly wrote:Don't you know Spain ...? it's so different ...

I haven't been to Spain, from what my father says though (who has been there before) it is much more relaxed, and people are a lot nicer.

Hooray!

Samppa wrote:lol, I just wanted your opinions as I couldn't be arsed to think about your post..

Well you should've known by asking for opinion's you were gonna get alot more,lmao..

Anyway I do agree with the idea of it being the difference between the old world and the new world type of thing..But you have to Admit, if we didnt have all these different culture's and such,,We wouldnt have forum's or different opinion's..

I live in the U.S. and trust me there are people here that have never gotten past their differences that led us to our civil war,,So yea id have to say it's a old world versus new world deal....

One big difference being now day's people are smart enough to know that making friend's around the world is better than making enemy's.....

Starmax wrote:One big difference being now day's people are smart enough to know that making friend's around the world is better than making enemy's.....

That should read "SOME people are smart enough.."

I dont find big differences between Europe and America. Peoples are peoples everywhere around the world. Besides, Canada is pro-europeen country.

ngunder wrote:Maybe you should come out of the sauna once and a while

That's a good point. Is it true, that Americans wear a swimming suite in the sauna? Maybe somebody just wanted to fool me when saying that. Anyway, I've never seen that in Europe.

Thomas