Track Anyone With a Cell Phone

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Track Anyone With a Cell Phone

Postby vismaya on Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:50 pm

Track Anyone With a Cell Phone

This article is copied from LiveAmmo. Where they got it, I have no idea.
"By using one of the many mobile phone location tracking services aimed at businesses or concerned parents, and some trickery it is possibly to get almost anyone's mobile phone position without their agreement. All that is required is their mobile phone number, and carrier.

Over the past year a number sites have popped up offering web based mobile phone tracking services. To use their services you purchase a monthly subscription or set number of credits, and enter in the targets phone number. The target then receives an SMS message asking them to confirm they consent to the tracking. After the target replies, the tracker can then request their position online and receive a street address, post code, and map of their location with an accuracy of around 250 meters.

As recently publicised by The Guardian, and The Register a simple / reasonably covert attack (assuming you have physical access to the target phone) would be to just reply to the confirmation message, and delete all evidence afterwards. For the attack described as follows physical access to the device is not required significantly lowering the bar for successfully activating the tracking service.

At first sight the system may seem secure due to the challenge (target receives SMS) - response (target replies to SMS) authentication method, however the required response is always the same and the SMS message from field is used to identify the target that agreed to the tracking. The problem arises since the SMS from field (similar to caller ID on a phone) is spoofable as previously reported.

This obviously raises a number of privacy concerns."

Comment: the predictability of those SMS authorization messages is of key concern for the security of mobile location-based services. As this attack demonstrates, one need only know the mobile number of the person to track in order to subscribe them to a tracking service without their permission. Another thing to consider is the ease with which Bluetooth-enabled mobile handsets can be hacked, which would also give an attacker the ability to tap into a mobile handset and send/receive SMS enrollment messages for location-based services tracking.

A recent article from Popular Science shows how a Bluetooth adapter can be modified to access devices more than a mile away, so the supposed 30-meter limitations of Bluetooth isn't accurate depending on the antenna used by the attacker.
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Postby Rommaster on Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:39 pm

Isn't mobile phone tracking illegal? Where's the privacy? Confused
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i would agree.

Postby tenguage12 on Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:49 pm

i would have to agree with Rommaster, i believe it is illegal, and we need are privacy without privacy i think are world would be hell.
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Postby pugrit on Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:14 am

i think in my country its not,. there saw this commercial for a teleco company, the boy got lost and the parents found him through using cellphone tracking a service offered by the company.
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Postby al_tyranny on Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:28 am

pugrit, the situation they're talking about is completely different.

It'd be very irresponsible of the phone company not to hel psome parents locate their lost child if they could track him using a cell phone.

An example of a situation they're referring to would be:

Some random guy on the internet gets pissed at you. He finds out your real name, cell phone number, starts stalking you, etc.

Then he uses this number to find out where you are and starts physically harassing you.

(this scenario is very unlikely, but it works for what they're saying)
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Postby Rommaster on Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:48 am

al_tyranny wrote:pugrit, the situation they're talking about is completely different.

It'd be very irresponsible of the phone company not to hel psome parents locate their lost child if they could track him using a cell phone.

An example of a situation they're referring to would be:

Some random guy on the internet gets pissed at you. He finds out your real name, cell phone number, starts stalking you, etc.

Then he uses this number to find out where you are and starts physically harassing you.

(this scenario is very unlikely, but it works for what they're saying)


And this is the perfect example of having privacy, of course you can do good things with it, but most of the people use it for bad things. Like crime, hacking? etc.
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Yea...

Postby tenguage12 on Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:25 pm

People like that are just Immature, irasponsable, and just plan stuipd like there scard someone has something he/she doesnt Sad
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Postby pugrit on Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:41 pm

i think the locator service is open too all: heres the site of the telco and teh service offered.

http://www.personfinder.ph/

ANTS Location Based Services


About WIS

Location, location, location.

Simply, that is exactly what we provide—the capability that allows you to locate your family and friends, restaurants, gas stations, and other establishments, and yes, even yourself, utilizing Short Messaging System (SMS), more popularly known as texting.

Today, you experience this service brought to you by Asian Navigation & Tracking Systems, Inc. ANTS), the pioneer in providing location-based services (LBS) in the country.

Next time you’re asking where your daughter is, or where’s a nearby fast food outlet, or where you are in an unfamiliar neighborhood, WIS provides you with the location.
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Postby Theacids on Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:26 am

Now that is just inappropriate. that is a really simple way of harrasing somebody. Then again, it could help save lives. I think people should be given the choice to enable this feature at the time they sign up. Also it should be very well cecured, so that just the parents of specified user can find out the person's phisical location. Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
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Postby cyberbaze on Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:10 am

Theacids Has a point , what about ppl with mental/psychical degradation ? what about hendicept ppl ? Tracking with mobile phones CAN be usefull but i thing it should be signed in a agrement with the user that he agrees to be tracked. BUT i DONT support tracking someone wihtout noticing/asking him/her.
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Postby topolab on Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:49 pm

what can i say for my innocent country?
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Postby topolab on Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:50 pm

oops another one
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&...._OUKOE-UK-GREECE-TAPPING.XML

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Postby glow on Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:22 pm

That is somehow creepy Confused
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Postby ngrounds on Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:02 pm

I too would agree that tracking people without their consent is wrong with the possible exception of minors, where their guardian can provide consent.
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Postby TranceManiac on Sun May 21, 2006 10:01 pm

well, they can do anything they want:

for example, my boss gave me her nextel 2 mos ago with her number. then she told me: "dont worry, they are going to change the number, dont do anything".
i agreed...later that afternoon i received a message instructing me to master reset the phone. i did that...and voila!!!! now i have a nextel with a number of my own...

scary, isnt it???
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