The Death Penalty!

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Re: The Death Penalty!

Postby callihn on Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:03 am

If a person does something unforgivable enough to require life behind bars then they should be put to death, it costs us too much money to house and feed them for a lifetime and the space is already far too limited, not to mention that people sentenced to life and even life without parole have been paroled and/or pardoned many times in the past, so think about that.
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Postby Samppa on Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:35 pm

I don't have the figures or any research but I do believe it costs more to kill a criminal than to lock them up.
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Postby callihn on Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:12 pm

Samppa wrote:I don't have the figures or any research but I do believe it costs more to kill a criminal than to lock them up.


I doubt that completely, your talking about clothing, electricity, food, footware, water, dental care, medical care, and etc. for 20/30/40 years or more, not counting the fact that when they finally die that has to be handled too.
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Postby Samppa on Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:47 pm

A quick google..

http://www.mindspring.com/~phporter/econ.html

That is one link, there was another that was for the death sentence but admitted it costs more than life imprisonment. If you feel the link is not adequate, it was quite simple to google it. I don't have the time right now, but feel free to research Wink

According to the link, "Florida calculated that each execution there costs some $3.18 million."
"Total annual costs for all U.S. Prisons, State and Federal, was $17.7 billion in 1994 along with a total prison population of 1.1 million inmates. That amounts to $16100 per inmate/year."

"From this; the cost of keeping a 25-year-old inmate for 50 years at present amounts to $805,000."


Even if the figure above was tripled it would still be considerably less than the 3 million required for execution.
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Postby callihn on Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:58 am

Samppa wrote:A quick google..

http://www.mindspring.com/~phporter/econ.html

That is one link, there was another that was for the death sentence but admitted it costs more than life imprisonment. If you feel the link is not adequate, it was quite simple to google it. I don't have the time right now, but feel free to research Wink

According to the link, "Florida calculated that each execution there costs some $3.18 million."
"Total annual costs for all U.S. Prisons, State and Federal, was $17.7 billion in 1994 along with a total prison population of 1.1 million inmates. That amounts to $16100 per inmate/year."

"From this; the cost of keeping a 25-year-old inmate for 50 years at present amounts to $805,000."


Even if the figure above was tripled it would still be considerably less than the 3 million required for execution.


Sorry, I'm not naive enough to refer to a page made up by someone who is obviously against it, perhaps you could provide figures from The Department of Justice or someone else who obviously would have access to those figures, that being said, a high powered rifle round cost about a dollar fifty. Wink
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Postby Samppa on Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm

callihn wrote:Sorry, I'm not naive enough to refer to a page made up by someone who is obviously against it


Which is why I said this Rolling Eyes :

Samppa wrote:If you feel the link is not adequate, it was quite simple to google it. I don't have the time right now, but feel free to research



callihn wrote:a high powered rifle round cost about a dollar fifty. Wink


Who's being naive?
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Postby Will on Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:59 pm

callihn wrote:Sorry, I'm not naive enough to refer to a page made up by someone who is obviously against it, perhaps you could provide figures from The Department of Justice or someone else who obviously would have access to those figures, that being said, a high powered rifle round cost about a dollar fifty. Wink


The cost isn't referring to the amount of money spent on the bullet, or the needle. The cost goes with up with the insane amount of appeals that people on Death Row go through. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article ... 108&scid=7
That's a portal to some government press releases and other studies.
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yeah i'm pretty sure on that one too

Postby alg8662 on Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:54 pm

[quote="Samppa"]I don't have the figures or any research but I do believe it costs more to kill a criminal than to lock them up.[/quote]

yeah i also don't have the numbers in front of me but i'm pretty sure that i also saw that it costs more to execute someone than to lock them up. at first this may seem unreasonable but those who recieve a death penalty have years of appeals (some mandatory) that probably racks up tons of money.
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Postby uzunov on Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:14 pm

I`m againt death penalty because of the fact..that death is an easy choice withoit even the prisoner even realised what had he done...if he live all his life isolated he will fill the strng of his penalty...he can change himself in good direction,,,or he can get mad..I think prisoner for life is the best choise instead of electric chair...and killing people is not human ..it doesnt matter are u judging or killing just for fun...in the 2 sitiation ..u`ll become murder....U cant bring back deaths..revenge is not the good choise
It`s no matter what you know, it`s matter what you can prove...
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I didn't say I was for it...

Postby alg8662 on Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:54 pm

Although I'm pretty sure it's cheaper, I also don't agree with the death penalty, mostly because "revenge" doesn't really solve anything. Plus the risk of executing the wrong person always scares me, but I suppose that's more theoretical than actual (but I'm pretty sure Maine abolished the death penalty after executing an innocent man). Anyways, America is one of the last "enlightened" nations to practice the death penalty, so I'm sure it will be abolished soon...
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