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I'm going to try something new here, I've been told by mods and users that the 15 posts thing is bringing in alot of spam and I've been more than aware of it, however, my solution to the problem isn't ready yet.

So guess what, you can spam to get your 15 posts, you can spam to get 300 posts for all I care but from now on, to actually get your account you have to be on IRC, we have to see you in the channel, you have to have been around for a long enough time for us to notice you participating. When we think it has been sufficient time, we will offer to check your request and make the decision as to whether it is worthy or not.

Asking us, hindering us, etc. will not help you get an account faster, it won't necissarily make it any harder for you to get one but when you think about it, getting on the account creators bad side is probably not a good thing.

Now, just because I am requiring IRC activity does not mean you can stop doing stuff here. The old rules and requirments still apply, the IRC thing is in addition to them.

It does not take much for us to notice you on IRC, the #phoenix channel is not overly active so I can pretty easily scroll through the days text and see whose been participating whose been coming and going and get a pretty fair idea, as can the other ranking people in this network. A couple of hours a week is more than enough for someone to notice you, if you come in and noones talking don't just leave, idle, if you notice a conversation join in.

Once you get your shell I am asking you to stick around as much as you can, idling is fine as long as you chat from time to time too and whats stopping you from idling? Just screen an irssi session which is connected to our chosen IRC network, not difficult at all.

I understand that some of you are behind firewall which block outgoing access to many ports including IRC ones, if this is the case for you, PM me and we'll work something out, depending on the situation I may organise an alternative requirement for you.

As a last note,
This is a trial thing however, from what I've seen lately this isn't going to be going anywhere fast.
Any problems or queries regarding this should be PM'd to me or posted in this topic.

IRC Information:
Server: irc.anoxs.net
Channel: #phoenix

Couldn't you just do something like:
Activity for atleast 30 days
You need to be registered for atleast 60 days
A normal post count for two months.
Posts with decend content.

bart416 wrote:Activity for atleast 30 days
You need to be registered for atleast 60 days

Personally, I think it'd be pretty unreasonable to require two months of interest here before getting a shell account.

Most users have valid reasons for needing a shell (I requested one because of a Perl class I was taking over the summer, and two months would have made it useless), and such a long period of "wait time" would just make them go somewhere else.

thebeast wrote:And you just spamed a little bit ;-) So Tim this is good idea to be active in IRC but some ppl maybe have a problems with IRC like baned but yeah we have a IRC applet in site. So everythink will be ok. :-)

Don't forget to change the nick of the IRC applet to your nickname on the forum, or the mods won't recognize you.

I should probably add that:

- being active on forum DOESN'T mean registering and just randomly posting 20 posts.
- being active ono IRC DOESN'T mean joining the channel and asking: "Can I get a shell?"

I agree with zogo. Talking about waiting period we can give a shell soon as possible is when they fill our requirements. And than we can do to they must requirements like min write 5 posts in forum per month. Or stmh like that. Also we can do to need preregister every month in some field fill information.

I can be on aim and forums all the time bcuz I have a sidekick but it will be hard to be on irc very often. I'm always out and about but ill try to c if I can get on irc on my sidekick. mite not be possible and if its not ill try to get into the irc chatrooms on my comp. thankyou for being here. I'm glad I found phoenix on www.hackthissite.org. wow I totally forgot about the site. I went str8 here and have been here for roughly 2hours? I need sleep rofl >_<

Al'light, we are opening the old signup system again, however spammers will not be accepted. Click here to use it.

zogo wrote:I should probably add that:

- being active on forum DOESN'T mean registering and just randomly posting 20 posts.
- being active ono IRC DOESN'T mean joining the channel and asking: "Can I get a shell?"

I Have a question
Is there anything I shouldn't do?
Thanks for making this oppourtunity avalible for me

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mdranta

mdranta wrote:I Have a question
Is there anything I shouldn't do?

It's just common sense. Say, when you walk into McDonald's to get a burger, you don't just enter and scream... same with Phoenix. Just use common sense and you'll be fine.

Thanks For that and nice analogy.

nighthawk wrote:Say, when you walk into McDonald's to get a burger, you don't just enter and scream...

So thats why I got kicked out of maccas.....

I think when your are active on the forum ,you contact with other members of the network and litle by litle you feel a part from the team and the candidate for a shell....

Personally I would stick more to the forum. The irc isnt much of a help at times. Specially when not a lot of people are talking at different times. The user might very well be from a timezone that, when he/she is on irc, majority are sleeping.

And there is a very fine line between doing something to "belong" and get a shell here and also how long can the patience or waiting keeps upto the interest. The stuff Tim proposed I think the requirement is becoming very subjective in nature. Atleast in my case I knew what was going on around me to try to fit in a forum as such. What if the we have a newB trying to sign up and has no clue whatsoever whats a shell is and how things work, or general has no idea about the technology involved?

Therefore I would suggest few things such as making the forum more general public oriented, that is, have more sections where people can interact without having to figure out OMG what are these guys talking about???? Also please review the sign-up rules more carefully before making it a permanent one. What works for you , might not work for everyone.

bluebell wrote:What if the we have a newB trying to sign up and has no clue whatsoever whats a shell is and how things work, or general has no idea about the technology involved?

Essentially he is in the wrong place, the idea behind this whole thing is for being to learn and prosper. If they have no clue then they need to get some background before they're going to get anything, I'm not about to let someone with no idea run around one of my systems.

Therefore I would suggest few things such as making the forum more general public oriented, that is, have more sections where people can interact without having to figure out OMG what are these guys talking about???? Also please review the sign-up rules more carefully before making it a permanent one. What works for you , might not work for everyone.

Signup is being remoddeled just yeah, I don't have much time so its taking a bit of a backseat mostly.