When will you switch to vista

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When will you switch to vista

When it comes out
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9%
Within 6 months of release
11
13%
Within 1 year of release
7
8%
1+ years after release
9
10%
Never
48
57%
 
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When will you switch to vista

Postby nagual on Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:09 pm

I for one will probably not switch right away. For one I don't currently have the money to build a 64 bit system, which vista will be optimized for. 2, I don't currently have the money for the memory and graphics upgrades. I have read some reviews on vista, and it seems that to get it to run smoothly memory and processor upgrades will be required, for people not running a 64 bit system. I have also heard that at least 1 gig of ram will be required to run smoothly. Anybody wanna add to this?
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Postby Pantero Blanco on Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:31 pm

Missing option: Never.

I don't see any reason to shell out money for an OS that burns up that much RAM and CPU cycles on fluff, and the Trusted Computing/DRM stuff they're trying to work in seals it for me. If I have to do Windows-centric programming, I'll just find a spare hard drive (or use VMWare) and dig up my old XP CD.

If you're going to switch, though, I agree that it's a good idea not to switch right away. The "fresh-out" versions of things tend to have lots of undiscovered bugs.
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Postby Boso on Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:50 pm

I don't have the money to buy a PC where to run Vista Sad. Also I'm trying to swtch from WIn to Linux as I'm sick of searching derials and keygens for stupid software that crashes or does nothing. And finaly even it is a finel version I guess that I'll feel like some beta tester as Windows allways has bugs and stuff that has to be fixed Sad. I don't want to say that MS are doing bad products, it seems that the Linux it's better for some apps Wink.
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Postby Will on Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:40 am

Minimum System Requirements wrote:512 megabytes (MB) or more of RAM


That's a lot.

Any you won't have to shell out an upgrade for 64 bit processor because it isn't optimized for 64b, just has better support for 64b then Windows XP does. It will still be mainly produced for the 32-bit mass market.

When I upgrade depends on whether or not it has the same type of backward compatibility issues XP had with 98. I don't want all my software to have to be "Run in XP" mode. However, I don't know if this will be an issue, since I havn't had the time to install the BETA on my computer and test it out.
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Postby Tim on Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:25 am

I will probably upgrade as soon as it is made available to me (note I didn't say as soon as it is available to the public), I personally quite like BETA 1 (though I'm not running it right now) and found that generally it ran very well on my old 1.7ghz Athlon XP with 512mb ram and a 64mb graphics card even with the memory leaks.

The DRM stuff doesn't worry me as such, its not going to last, thats why we have the internet so groups can hack and tear at any given product until the undesired quality is mysteriously gone.
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Postby arckeda on Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:04 am

Maby never...
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Postby Bugs42 on Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:32 am

Well, I'm gonna try it as soon as possible, but I can't say whether I'll really switch to it or not till I've actually used it a bit.
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Postby mm_freak on Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:48 am

nighthawk wrote:When I upgrade depends on whether or not it has the same type of backward compatibility issues XP had with 98. I don't want all my software to have to be "Run in XP" mode. However, I don't know if this will be an issue, since I havn't had the time to install the BETA on my computer and test it out.



Maybe you won't be running your old software at all, because it doesn't pass the TCG signature test. You won't be using your favorite media player either, because it doesn't pass the DRM test (reason: it does play MP3 files, which don't have such a feature). All in all, you won't be running any software that doesn't come from some Large Company. =)

Edit: and yes - my answer is Never.
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Postby nagual on Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:04 pm

I agree with most of you on the not upgrading because of all the new "Protection" going into vista. I think its pretty crappy, but can see where the vendors are coming too, so I guess its an endless debate.
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Postby mini on Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:23 pm

It will probaly be atleast a year for me, for two main reasons:
1. Currently, all my computers are fast enough and have enough RAM (512) that I just don't need to upgrade.
2. I'm sure there will be tons of bugs, and they've stripped out a lot of the stuff that made it worthwhile, a lot of it is just this Avalon stuff.

Bah!
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Postby Will on Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:35 pm

What's this about new DRM in Vista? I havn't heard anything about it.
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Postby ddapue on Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:41 am

MS Vista new features includes things such as Restart Manager- a tool that allows users to update their os and install new software without having to restart their machine.
wow how impressive, Unix admins had this feature for 20 years, its about time ms caught up.


This version of windows is going to be as good a spyware as xp was.
NO i wont switch damit!
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Postby safety on Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:05 am

I have made the switch from windows Evil or Very Mad to mac Very Happy and will never look back. Hey that rhymed, lol. I have used windows since version 3.1 and it feels good to finally use a reliable os.

Check out Gates embarrassing moment in this video. Here is another cool flash version of Windows RG (Really Good) edition. This is good for a laugh.

Now back to the topic at hand. My answer is with out a doubt, NEVER!!! Been there, done that and never want to do it again.

As far as DRM goes, what a bunch of crap. I understand that France and the European Community is working on banning this "technology" altogether. Good for them! If you go to vh1.com, all of their videos are protected by drm. So basically, I am unable to view any of those old or new videos because I don't use windows products that support drm.

vh1 wrote:In order to offer a broad selection of full-length music videos on-demand and free of charge, VSpot uses Windows Digital Rights Management (DRM) to protect videos from unauthorized re-distribution. Unfortunately, Microsoft's Windows Media Player Plug-in for Macintosh does not support Windows DRM. If DRM support becomes available for Macintosh, VH1 will develop a version of VSpot that works on a Mac.


So, good for mac first of all for not supporting drm and boo vh1 for having a broken site because of digital restriction management. ~Puts vh1.com on boycott list.~
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Postby zogo on Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:11 am

safety wrote:I have made the switch from windows :evil: to mac :D and will never look back. Hey that rhymed, lol. I have used windows since version 3.1 and it feels good to finally use a reliable os.


Likewise, except that I only used Win since 3.11 ;]
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Postby Bugs42 on Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:16 am

I really sympathize with y'all that aren't gonna get Vista at all, but the fact is that I just can't live without my games, and let's face it, most won't work under Linux. I'm more or less forced into using Microsoft products at least some of the time.
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