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by **Cream** on Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:45 am

well, for me, Hacking is for find any security exploit you have on your comp. I really do think those "evil" hackers who keeps hacking other for no reason destroy the art of hacking!. Those people dun even deserve to call themselves a hacker in my opinion. The real hacker is the one who able to fix the exploit you have, not damaging other people computer.

by **KnoWedGe** on Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:15 pm

I dont know guys, what do you thinking about, when you are saying "hacking". I am thinking about breaking into a System 4 fun.

by **Macpi** on Sat Feb 11, 2006 4:57 pm

Hacking is a chess-like game. There are 2 brain in challenge. Mine and defender's. Hacking is moral when my challenge knows that I'm playing with him. But a SysAdmin would be know that his work is "to play with me". This is a fact. I bet my brain, my liberty, cause I know that my error could means prison.
He bets his brain ...maybe...

Strange game...

by **NtahX** on Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:43 pm

I do agree with some people... hacking isn't just about fun but for me i do it for own porposes like using a hotspot WiFi connection for free for example...even though nobody get serious lost from it... not to mention it was easy but i'm no damm good hacker... it was a process of learning with some try and error technique... hehehe... Laughing

by **Iggy** on Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:37 pm

Another definition of hacker: A person with unlimited numbers of keys that just needs to find the right one to enter the "room".

Some persons try to go in through the window(s) Laughing

by **vismaya** on Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:23 pm

well am not a ethical one,i do whatever i want to do, usually i dont care about the f*cking lows & stuffs like that...but still am not a bad boy Wink

.And about my concept we all belive in something & no one has right to prevent us from seeking knowldge.Most of the hackers are curious & that cruriocity make them different from others,curiocity is not a crime so hack is also not a crime!.

by **Samppa** on Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:39 pm

Interesting 'logic' there..

You could justify anything with that.

by **Knoxnyt** on Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:10 pm

i'm not a hacker, but i like some times to "own shells", thats is for my own business (bnc, host etc)

Don't click here! · by **Boso** on Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:10 am

So, this is a question for all the "hackers" here. There is an idiot in my class who hardly turns his PC on. Somebody has told here that knew how to make other computer beep via telnet. Can anyone share it with me Smile

?

by **Franko** on Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:37 am

I've came across this a few days ago. It really caught my attention:
http://www.lostcoders.net/security/hack ... t-anymore/

I want to know your opinions about it.

by **isickheadi** on Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:32 pm

*coming out of lurking mode*

Hey, read the whole topic and found it very interesting.
For me, hacking is an art. Hacking is something more then just braking into a system, exploiting code, etc...
Hacking is definitely something more. Everyone has his own point of view on this topic and I appreciate it. But do not generalize hacking by just what you see in the media and what you read in the newspapers.

*back to lurking mode*

by **jdhore** on Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:33 pm

i personally consider myself more of a "cracker" than a "hacker" since i'm not a very big fan of the term hacker...i don't really remember what first got me into hacking since i was like 10 years old at the time (i'm 21 now), but currently here's what i hack/crack and what i feel should be hacked:

Evil Companies (MSFT, AOL, Verizon, Comcast, etc.)
Government Institutions
evil people
and, people who pay me for security analysis (i'm a freelance security analyst)

I'm not a big fan of people who hack people just because they're not very computer savvy and don't have their copy of Windows totally patched and don't have a firewall installed...

by **format** on Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:38 pm

Hacker is like an artist. Real Hacker never concede about his art. I don't like people who say about themself as a hacker...they are no0ne 4me. 1st u have to find l1on of urs brain. Cheer.

by **Samppa** on Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:30 am

Goddamnit if I don't hate seeing numbers used instead of letters..

I'll use hacking as the term that means breaking into a computer here:

Anyway, as for which things should be hacked, none. No-one has the right to invade the privacy of any corporation, institution, government or individual, even if they are capable of it, and say it's only for their education and part of the natural thirst for knowledge. That does not make it alright, nor legal. Hacking goes beyond any moral explanations, there is no right reason or time to hack.

It's unfortunate people and corporations can be so lax about their security, I'd like everyone to have a box that can be hacked only by those who have studied the ''art'' for decades. (I'd be stupid to say have an unhackable box)

I'd like for someone to give me a few pointers as to why you like to hack? I'd like to know a bit more about that..

by **darkholm** on Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:27 am

eosp wrote:My main goal is improvement--of myself, my code, and the world.

First, myself. Hacking gives me the opportunity to improve my skills and to enhance my programming. Like other people, I learn from doing, so by hacking something, I learn how it works.

Secondly, I use this knowledge to improve my code. I want to make more secure code, more efficient code, easier to understand code, etc. For example, I used to try to code everything in one piece, I now try to do as little as possible as a base and then work up from there. For example, I figured out that any program or driver can be created on my OS with the ~10 system calls I created--basically enough to output on the screen, get input from the keyboard, input and output to ports and block devices, and process and memory management. Further filesystem drivers, for example, can be created from this. The end result is that more code is in userspace, where it is more secure.

Third, I want to improve the world. I want to help out the people that try to keep their websites etc. up all the time. I try to find vulnerabilities etc. so that everyone can be more secure. I also do the same morally...if I defaced a website, I would deface an immoral website and try to encourage productivity and living for oneself and for everyone--not just conforming to societal norms.

You know, If people pictured hackers like this, we might not have such problems.

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