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Hey all, my name's Ayaz. I'm 18 years old (well, almost) and i'm from Pakistan. I've got alot of interest in computers and other electronics and just love to tear apart every nifty little thing to have a look inside. I've been using computers for the past 4 or so years but i've got a hold of alot of things (that even my dad doesn't know how to ). If you need some sort of help with "beginner" Linux or any Win stuff then do let me know.

I've been trying to get my hands on a shell account lately to learn TCL and to get a hold of the Unix world.

Peace!

whisky wrote:Hey all, my name's Ayaz. I'm 18 years old (well, almost) and i'm from Pakistan. I've got alot of interest in computers and other electronics and just love to tear apart every nifty little thing to have a look inside. I've been using computers for the past 4 or so years but i've got a hold of alot of things (that even my dad doesn't know how to ). If you need some sort of help with "beginner" Linux or any Win stuff then do let me know.

I've been trying to get my hands on a shell account lately to learn TCL and to get a hold of the Unix world.

Peace!

Hi whisky
i have a great interest in computer too
so much im studying them

Welcome to the forums, whisky. =)

whisky wrote:Hey all, my name's Ayaz. I'm 18 years old (well, almost) and i'm from Pakistan. I've got alot of interest in computers and other electronics and just love to tear apart every nifty little thing to have a look inside. I've been using computers for the past 4 or so years but i've got a hold of alot of things (that even my dad doesn't know how to :P ). If you need some sort of help with "beginner" Linux or any Win stuff then do let me know.

I've got a Windows question. Why does the Windows API prefer to use evil function call names from hell (like MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx), while in Linux easy names (like waitpid) are preferred? =)

whisky wrote:I've been trying to get my hands on a shell account lately to learn TCL and to get a hold of the Unix world.

It's far better to install the Eggdrop locally to learn TCL. An eggdrop running on a shell account is usually meant to be used, not to be practiced with.

mm_freak wrote:I've got a Windows question. Why does the Windows API prefer to use evil function call names from hell (like MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx), while in Linux easy names (like waitpid) are preferred? =)

Me! Me!

MS likes to have nice, descriptive names which tell you exactly what the thing does, however descriptive almost always equals long.

Linux and the like, however, prefer more efficient, shorter names which are often much more confusing at first sight but easier to remember in the long term (and less likely to be spelt wrong )

mm_freak wrote:I've got a Windows question. Why does the Windows API prefer to use evil function call names from hell (like MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx), while in Linux easy names (like waitpid) are preferred? =)

Because they want it to be "Lamer Friendly" (No offense to Windows people)

But anyway, readability of source code is very important, moreso than being able to write it a half second faster.

whisky wrote:But anyway, readability of source code is very important, moreso than being able to write it a half second faster.

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SomeLongFunctionNameEx((LPARAM *)dwUserData, (CALLBACKFUNCTION)callback, 10, 23, 11, 22, *(HWND *)mywnd);

And in your opinion, this is readable?!

LOL.

You don't have to worry about all that long essay after the function name as long as the function's name its self is readable.

Like "SomeLongFunctionNameEx" gives you the sure shot idea of what all this stuff is about so why bother with all that other stuff ?

whisky wrote:You don't have to worry about all that long essay after the function name as long as the function's name its self is readable.

Like "SomeLongFunctionNameEx" gives you the sure shot idea of what all this stuff is about so why bother with all that other stuff ?

Then look at this code:

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if (IsConstantPolynomialEx(&SeedPolynomial) == TRUE) return NULL;
EnterCriticalSection(&OneSeed);
InitializeGaloisFieldEx(&myDomain, 2, 512);
AssignDomainToPolynomialEx(&FeedbackPolynomial, &myDomain);
GeneratePolynomialEx(&FeedbackPolynomial, 512, GENERATE_POLYNOMIAL_PRIMITIVE);
CopyPolynomialEx(&StatePolynomial, &SeedPolynomial);
LeaveCriticalSection(&OneSeed);
/* ... */

So you know, just by reading the function names, what this pseudo-function does? Or to have a more real example:

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SendMessage((HWND)mainwindow, WM_COMMAND, 124, 0);

Which command does this function send to the main window? Do you know that? No. The function name SendMessage doesn't help you in any way, nor does the message mnemonic WM_COMMAND. It just gives you a hint about the action taken with that expression.

Right.

So in short, Linux pwns Windoze?