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Why do you do it manually? Use the package mangement that comes with your distribution.

Fedora package managment sucks.
I don't play with apache/php and prebuild copies but I'm pretty sure that the package manager isn't capable of complex conigurations for php and they have default locations that I don't agree with, like /var/www rather than /usr/local/apache which I what I prefer. That and from experience with debian, those packages were never very recent so I never got into the habit of using them.

Where your htdocs are is determined by your httpd configuration. And the httpd installation itself does belong to '/usr/apache' or '/usr/local/apache'. The packages are intentionally not the most recent ones, because they always leave some period of testing time, before it's put into the stable branch.

You are much better off using the package management. I don't know how good it is in Fedora, but in Debian, it's very good. And the maintainers do a good job regarding the recentness of packages. Also if you upgrade your system daily via the package management, then you don't have to fear security flaws as much as you currently have to.

You shouldn't be using Fedora on a server anyway. Use Debian.

That is your opinion, this is mine. I much prefer to build apache/php myself, I dislike package managment for these things especially seeing as theres public access to them on a large scale, that and I have a large support team behind it. Don't argue with me, this is how I work and I have no intention to change that at any stage in the forseeable future.
The server was preshiped with fedora because I also have a plesk license and plesk doesn't/didn't support debian, it costs $40 that I don't have to get 24 hours of access to install another OS myself.

Tim, I'm not arguing with you, I'm just trying to give you a good advice. I think, you already know that thousands of people are working on Apache, PHP, phpBB, MySQL and so on. It hasn't been a security threat for years, as packages are tested thoroughly and maintained very well. Anyway, it's your server, and I'm not going to dictate how you have to maintain it; please don't get this wrong.

mm_freak wrote:Where your htdocs are is determined by your httpd configuration. And the httpd installation itself does belong to '/usr/apache' or '/usr/local/apache'. The packages are intentionally not the most recent ones, because they always leave some period of testing time, before it's put into the stable branch.

You are much better off using the package management. I don't know how good it is in Fedora, but in Debian, it's very good. And the maintainers do a good job regarding the recentness of packages. Also if you upgrade your system daily via the package management, then you don't have to fear security flaws as much as you currently have to.

You shouldn't be using Fedora on a server anyway. Use Debian.

I tought you would use redhat or gentoo for servers. Debian is great, but not all server programs run that well on it. And things like cpanel need modifications to run on it.

I would personally use debian or gentoo for a server, not a red hat product, I really dislike them both as desktop os' and server ones but then, I don't hate it enough to waste more money getting rid of it.
Generally its better not to use cpanel, its expensive and in some situations it has alot of problems...then again, users do like it. But its always good to look into other systems like DirectAdmin (which does support debian) or InterWorks (or whatever) which I know nothing about.
Someone is going to be smart and mention webmin here, server control panels are generally used to benefit the user not the administrator (although some people use them for all their adminitration :/) and in comparison, webmin is not very beneficial for the user.

bart416 wrote:I tought you would use redhat or gentoo for servers. Debian is great, but not all server programs run that well on it. And things like cpanel need modifications to run on it.

I would use Gentoo, but not Red Hat. For others, I always recommend Debian. Server programs do run well on it and I don't know of anything that doesn't work, but when I talk about Debian, I always talk about Sarge. I've had many problems with Woody.

Anyway, I like configuration files and the command line, so for me there is no need to install such things.

The forums are running very fast for me and apparently the majority of everyone else who uses this site. Good work

hmm...not bad!

THIs forum, comparated with other forums, it´s very fast for me:

I suppose these forums are somewhat above average speedwise, but I wonder if that will change when you get more threads etc..