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hi,
im having real trouble working out how to make a linux live cd ive tried alsorts of different types but they all send me to large ftp sites with millioons of files, i dont know what to get. my other problem is weatther i burn it all straight onto a cd or if theres some weird file system please help e im only a newbie?!

also what should i get?

If you want a cool live distro that's small, check out Slax.

The small one (console only) is ~40MB. Normal edition is 177MB. If connection speed is a problem, it's actually possible to download this one with a 56k modem (speaking from experience here, I've downloaded a ton of 700MB cd ISOs on 56k and they all take 36 hours or something , this one will take like 2 hours).

Live CDs are always in .iso format, so you need a program to burn ISOs onto cds (you can't just copy-paste the file). For WinBlows, I've been using Roxio free version.

fishpoo222 wrote:also what should i get?

Here's your best bet for a desktop distro. (even though it will be confusing as hell at first =P)

o.k ive done that but how do I get a desktop on it and all the other stuff like that which builds up the ui?

Looking for a LiveCD? I can't tell which one to use, but I can tell for sure, which you should not: Knoppix. =)

So it's going to be a desktop?

al_tyranny: I can understand that every Slackware user is so proud of using it that there is no better distro. But please try to stay mature anyway. =)

Edit: reading his introduction again, he's a total beginner and so Slackware will just confuse him. Most users, which get recommended an OS/distro like Slackware or FreeBSD, just get confused and go back to Windows. ;)

try ubuntu (free shipping). just ask and they send you copy of it..intsall cd and live cd..

fishpoo222 wrote:o.k ive done that but how do I get a desktop on it and all the other stuff like that which builds up the ui?

I don't understand the question ... do you want to install Linux on your hard drive, or change stuff in the live cd?

I'm probably wrong, but it sounds as if you've already installed Slackware on your hard drive (if you have, I heartily congratulate you) and are wondering where the GUI is. If you installed one (Fluxbox, KDE, GNOME, xfce, etc) you can start it up by typing "startx" at the command prompt.

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mm_freak wrote:Looking for a LiveCD? I can't tell which one to use, but I can tell for sure, which you should not: Knoppix. =)

That one almost had me rofl in real life ^^ Ah, my new signature has arrived =P

mm_freak wrote:al_tyranny: I can understand that every Slackware user is so proud of using it that there is no better distro. But please try to stay mature anyway. =)

This is the second time you've called me "immature" for saying that Slackware is the best, and I am confused. To the best of my recollection, I did not state my point of view in an immature way, or say anything (extraneously) stupid. Don't you think you're cutting the Ubuntu nuts here a little too much Slack? (okay, bad pun ...)

mm_freak wrote:his introduction again, he's a total beginner and so Slackware will just confuse him. Most users, which get recommended an OS/distro like Slackware or FreeBSD, just get confused and go back to Windows.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who started from complete n00bdom with Slack If you stay with it for about a week, it's sure to win you over (in contrast: WinBlows will still make you unhappy after years )

al_tyranny wrote:

mm_freak wrote:Looking for a LiveCD? I can't tell which one to use, but I can tell for sure, which you should not: Knoppix. =)

That one almost had me rofl in real life ^^ Ah, my new signature has arrived =P

I'm gonna live forever! Hooray! =D

al_tyranny wrote:

mm_freak wrote:al_tyranny: I can understand that every Slackware user is so proud of using it that there is no better distro. But please try to stay mature anyway. =)

This is the second time you've called me "immature" for saying that Slackware is the best, and I am confused. To the best of my recollection, I did not state my point of view in an immature way, or say anything (extraneously) stupid. Don't you think you're cutting the Ubuntu nuts here a little too much Slack? (okay, bad pun ...)

Yes, for saying that Slackware is the best. You don't even give the chance to try something other. Also I don't like Ubuntu very much myself, but it's a good distro for beginners. =)

al_tyranny wrote:

mm_freak wrote:his introduction again, he's a total beginner and so Slackware will just confuse him. Most users, which get recommended an OS/distro like Slackware or FreeBSD, just get confused and go back to Windows. ;)

I'm sure I'm not the only one who started from complete n00bdom with Slack :wink: If you stay with it for about a week, it's sure to win you over (in contrast: WinBlows will still make you unhappy after years :?)

I've started as a total noob with Debian and, still as a total noob, moved to Gentoo. Now I use Gentoo for almost three years. Should I recommend it to noobs? No, I shouldn't. They would just go back to Windows and that's the point. =)

Most users coming from the Windows world won't bother with a Slackware or Gentoo installation and system administration. They want a clean system, which is installed in a matter of minutes and easy to use. If it's too hard, they will go back.

mm_freak wrote:Yes, for saying that Slackware is the best. You don't even give the chance to try something other. Also I don't like Ubuntu very much myself, but it's a good distro for beginners. =)

C'mon, all *nix users are proud to run "the best" distro; likewise with me (many Slack users' love of it border on perversity ... all I can say is ).

mm_freak wrote:Now I use Gentoo for almost three years. Should I recommend it to noobs? No, I shouldn't. They would just go back to Windows and that's the point. =)

Most users coming from the Windows world won't bother with a Slackware or Gentoo installation and system administration. They want a clean system, which is installed in a matter of minutes and easy to use. If it's too hard, they will go back.

Oh ye of little faith! I think this guy can put up with a little bit of beginner's inconvenience here and there -- he's already asked about starting programming and setting up Linux/Live CDs ... I'm not sure a lot of newbs would try to take this all in at once.

I think you've left out the best debian-based distro for novice users, Ubuntu avilable at http://ubuntulinux.org. Before I moved to BSD, I used it. it handles along side with the apt package manager which is known to be easy on new users and in ubuntu it intergrates with a gui named Synaptic package manager which will make your life easy as they could concerning updates and security risks being up to date and close.

Ubuntu defaults Gnome and does it very well, I must add. It gives you initial support and a very good kernel.

The installation is a bit tricky but rtfm and you'll be alright.

give it a shot.

I`m pretty sure that for newbies are best Mandrake or Suse.

heh the post officer just bringed me the Ubuntu linux 20minuts ago ( that i ordered for free ) i ordered it like two months ago... usualy it takes 1 mont max but i live in Serbia hehe
anyway i looked at it and i dont realy like it ... its simple yes it has that add/remove programms and installed some other stuff ... bla bla, ubuntu is kinda ugly becouse it use Gnome.. i hate it kde rulz.
So if some newbie wont to use linux but for him its to hard to instal Slackware ( thats hardes and lets say "best" and oldest linux distributin ) then use SuSe its user friendly but not that user friendly its somewere in the middle

SqlByte wrote:bla bla, ubuntu is kinda ugly becouse it use Gnome.. i hate it kde rulz.

You didnt look very hard did you?
KDE - Ubuntu

If you want something quick and easy that makes most of the installation and configuration decisions for you, go with Ubuntu. If you want something that you can micromanage, go with Slackware.

If you're trying to learn your way around Linux...Go with Slackware. Why? Because in the process of getting it up and running, you'll learn how it ticks. The installation teaches you about partitioning, the filesystem tree, and about the major applications and portions of GNU/Linux (you actually get a description of each package as it is installed).

I also like having all the command-line utilities around by default (old 486s running CLI Slack make good telnet and IRC terminals), but that might be just me.

To my heart is closer slackware :-)~

Why do you all recommend a Slackware system to a beginner? They will try it, they will fail, they will give up, they will go to Windows, they will stay at Windows, and you are to be blamed for that. Do you really think that everyone is as geeky as you to try to get a Slackware system to run for one week?

Slackware users are dreamers. Sorry to say.