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by **Ayukie** on Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:46 am

MS Internet Explorer 7.0 beta vs Firefox and Mozilla. Which will emerge?

4 years since Microsoft refreshed its venerable Internet Explorer browser.

Features:
1) Tabbed browsing
2) Built-in RSS (RSS icon lighting up whenever a page has subscription content available won't be available until the second beta ->expected later in 2005).
--two features that are currently available in Netscape 8, Mozilla Firefox, and Apple Safari.
3) Antiphishing technology (Not part of the current IE 7 beta for Windows Vista but is included in beta 1 of IE 7 for XP).
4) Improve printing capabilities within IE 7 for XP - Pages will be reduced to fit the printed page.

Conditions: Only those running Windows XP SP2 will be able to run the latest version of IE.

Adjustment:
Refresh button, along with many other familiar buttons - Microsoft reduced and therefore vastly simplified the IE 7 toolbar area; the address bar is locked to the top of the browser window so that spyware can't replace it with a look-alike toolbar. Internet Explorer 7 also does away with many redundancies between menus and buttons.

by **Tim** on Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:41 am

The non-IE options will still be better from the err, power users' perspective. IE7 is very much a firefox clone and I like it alot less, it doesn't have the extentions or the develop community related to it, also it is closed source and as you know developers like open source.
I didnt' use IE7 very much during my Vista time, I really hated the toolbar position in it and I decided I would stick with firefox.

I believe that firefox will continue to shine through because knowing Microsoft, they will screw up html, css, etc. parsing some more so that website will once again display wrongly in it.

The mozilla suite and netscape are dead.

by **pugrit** on Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:50 pm

yep..kinda hard for web designers to design since majority of the surfers use IE..they/we must have to conisder users using non-IE browsers...

although IE screws up codes, some of the results in return would make the page look better in IE compared to firefox..

sample is the size of fonts and scroll-bars..etc...

but thats just it.. non-standard...its better of unified that way it woul dbe fair to all browsers..

by **mm_freak** on Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:46 am

Ayukie wrote:1) Tabbed browsing

The tabbed browsing in IE 7 is a joke. If you enable it, then simply windows are replaced by tabs. You won't be able to open more than one IE-window anymore.

Ayukie wrote:3) Antiphishing technology

That's not a feature, it's a bug-fix. And anyway, the term technology is totally misplaced here.

pugrit wrote:although IE screws up codes, some of the results in return would make the page look better in IE compared to firefox..

That's the web-designer's fault. If a page looks good in IE, but not in Firefox, then its source is not compliant. Even if it is compliant, the designers has considered Microsofts guidelines rather than the official standard.

by **cynpen** on Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:07 am

i dont like to use ie.. Surprised

by **thebeast** on Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:53 am

I think i'll be nice to try IE 7.0:-)

by **bart416** on Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:50 am

thebeast wrote:I think i'll be nice to try IE 7.0:-)

I got my hands on the beta version.
Reasons not to install it:
-it is even worse then MSIE6 in acid2test
-it takes ages to load
-it requires you to install sp2 (what slows down your computer infact)

a review i wrote:
http://xbox360.com.ru/home/msie7-review/

But we can't blame MS yet, its still beta.
Remember Razz

by **willdraven** on Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:17 pm

Luckily I can easily avoid the entire issue as I'm certain IE would refuse rather adamantly to run on Linux and I formatted over my windows partition a couple weeks ago Smile

by **Tim** on Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:14 am

IE runs just fine in linux, just like vb apps do...of course the operating environment needs to be emulated but that is to be expected when trying to run a win16/32 application in a different environment.

by **topolab** on Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:23 am

Im used of IE, but as far as i see more ppl use fFox.
checking stats of my web page i see the same.
i am on the way to get a linux so switching at fFox is on my plans
those spyware get me crazy

by **bart416** on Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:06 pm

Tim wrote:IE runs just fine in linux, just like vb apps do...of course the operating environment needs to be emulated but that is to be expected when trying to run a win16/32 application in a different environment.

Wine is kind a slow.
win4lin at the other side is a fast Smile

by **thebeast** on Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:27 am

I'm wonder now doeas Mozilla and Firefox not the same? Like in my about table shown Mozilla Firefox... :lol:

by **Tim** on Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:15 pm

Before Firefox, Mozilla's production web utilities were Mozilla Web, Mozilla News, Mozilla Mail, etc. Between these they formed the Mozilla Suite. So its all the oldschool Mozilla stuff as opposed to their new browser Razz

by **bart416** on Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:31 pm

Tim wrote:Before Firefox, Mozilla's production web utilities were Mozilla Web, Mozilla News, Mozilla Mail, etc. Between these they formed the Mozilla Suite. So its all the oldschool Mozilla stuff as opposed to their new browser

Firefox is kind a better i think.
It loads faster atleast.

I'm fond of my gmail so i don't use an email client at all Razz

So its quite clear what you should choose then.

Mozilla suite is to big and slow in my opinion.

by **entvex** on Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:46 pm

i like firefox Smile

is open kode and li think is make is get mere fast bug fixs and so on Smile

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