IRC clients

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What IRC Client do you use?

GAIM
0
No votes
BitchX
3
6%
IRSSI
3
6%
MIRC
21
48%
X-chat
11
25%
Embedded Browser Clients for Firefox/IE/Opera
0
No votes
Older clients (Zircon , ccIRC, Backended)
0
No votes
Other
5
11%
 
Total votes : 43

Postby Electro on Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:34 am

I`m using X-chat and BitchX...
I`ve benn using also IceChat, he`s also solid client(on win ofcourse)...
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Postby scyld on Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:50 pm

i use jchat and wchat a dev program created by one of my frnds and sometimes i use Mirc if i miss my old custom made scripts.
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Postby mm_freak on Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:37 pm

Steven wrote:mIRC all the way. I hate IRSSI with a passion :sad:. I've used mIRC for like... 3 years and nothing will change my use of that :razz:


mIRC has had the worst security history ever seen. Also mIRC has too few features. You need a script for it to be useful. But bad: you can't load more than one script without collisions, in almost all cases.

Conclusion: mIRC is one of the worst clients I have ever seen. Bad internal design and a lot of security flaws in the past. Even BitchX has better security. Also mIRC is not free (neither in terms of free beer, nor in terms of free speech). Worst client.
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Postby thebeast on Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:59 pm

So i'm a win user and i'm using mIRC(Scripted little more) and nothing had problems to it... If i wanna to connect to few servers i don't need to open new window again that is one of the feature i like :-) Becouse i'm using some few diferent irc servers like shellsnet anox...
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Postby mm_freak on Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:36 am

thebeast wrote:If i wanna to connect to few servers i don't need to open new window again that is one of the feature i like :-) Becouse i'm using some few diferent irc servers like shellsnet anox...


That's a bad joke, isn't it? mIRC is the only client I know, which needed six major versions to support multiple servers - and the support isn't even good. You can't run any old mIRC 5 scripts properly with multiple servers in mIRC 6. In the best case, you need to rewrite every third line of the script; I guess you already know $cid, and I guess you hate it. ;)
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Re: IRC clients

Postby wrd on Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:48 am

Its all about allergic..

Mirc is nice and its simply....

BitchX is complicated, not very user friendly, but, when you got to know BitchX its easier and soft to use than mirc..
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Re: IRC clients

Postby mm_freak on Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:08 am

wrd wrote:Mirc is nice and its simply....


mIRC is one of the most complicated clients I know of. Have a look at X-Chat. For Windows, use version 2.0 instead of 2.4.

wrd wrote:BitchX is complicated, not very user friendly, but, when you got to know BitchX its easier and soft to use than mirc..


irssi is a superset of BitchX, and didn't have such a bad security history.
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Postby funman on Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:51 am

freak, you're an ass!
mIRC is the best client there is, it's scripting language (based off C) makes it an excellent starting point for peopel to customize their IRC experience and get the most out of their time on IRC. They also lay the foundaries for future learning of most major programming languages.

What you say about it taking six major versions for multiserver to be supported is crap, I've been multi servering for 2 major versions without roblems...

Scripts work like a charm on multiple server, I've never had a problem with it, and I run scripts taht trigger on different servers amongst other things.

Have you really used mIRC? Have you tried it's scriting language to the outmost? I THINK NOT!

You talk like one of those bloody NNS users (hell be upon them), one of those that think that NNS is all there is, it's liek god for them (they must BURN!). they use NNS because their friend ssay it's uber cool (I have friends liek that, they've still to convince me).

It can't load more then 1 script? You must be using NNS as it's the only script I know of that disables any custom or "non-NNS" script just for the hell of it. Did I mention NNS eing a compilation of AL STOLEN CODE?

Xchat, sure it's nice...but 20 day trial to windows users? I THINK NOT!
IRSSI, meh, pure text gets bring after a while, you need some diversity.

Conclusion: mIRC just served your ass.
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Postby stupergenius on Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:58 am

funman wrote:You talk like one of those bloody NNS users (hell be upon them), one of those that think that NNS is all there is, it's liek god for them (they must BURN!). they use NNS because their friend ssay it's uber cool (I have friends liek that, they've still to convince me).

NNS? Like:
Netware Named Services (Novel, Netware)
I have no idea what that means, but I hate those people too. Razz
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Postby funman on Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:00 am

NNS as in NoName Script
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Postby stupergenius on Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:03 am

I don't know, it sure is pretty. Wink
http://www.nnscript.de/40teaser/new6/new1.png
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Postby funman on Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:12 am

IT'S A FUCKIGN THEME, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THEM EVERYWHERE!

(and thye stole their theme engine and edited the author name)
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Postby mm_freak on Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:43 am

funman wrote:freak, you're an ass!


Calm down, my friend. mIRC has shaken your head for too long I guess. =)

funman wrote:mIRC is the best client there is, it's scripting language (based off C) makes it an excellent starting point for peopel to customize their IRC experience and get the most out of their time on IRC. They also lay the foundaries for future learning of most major programming languages.


mIRC's language is in no way based on C. It has similar syntax, but it's completely different.

funman wrote:What you say about it taking six major versions for multiserver to be supported is crap, I've been multi servering for 2 major versions without roblems...


mIRC didn't support multi-server connections until version 6.

funman wrote:Scripts work like a charm on multiple server, I've never had a problem with it, and I run scripts taht trigger on different servers amongst other things.


If you have a script written for mIRC 5, then you certainly will have problems running it with multi-server connections in version 6. It starts with timers, which are global in mIRC, regardless of what you do. You have to rewrite all timers "test" to something like this:
Code: Select all
timertest $+ $cid ...

This is needed for things like flood protection (where every message is sent with a short delay, based on standard mIRC timers).

funman wrote:Have you really used mIRC? Have you tried it's scriting language to the outmost? I THINK NOT!


I was a mIRC scripter for almost four years. I used to implement even real cryptography and complex command line interpreters for it (because it doesn't provide this functionality itself - d'oh!).

funman wrote:You talk like one of those bloody NNS users (hell be upon them), one of those that think that NNS is all there is, it's liek god for them (they must BURN!). they use NNS because their friend ssay it's uber cool (I have friends liek that, they've still to convince me).


I've started with plain mIRC, then Looksharp and StrangeServer, finally went back to plain mIRC and started writing my own script.

funman wrote:It can't load more then 1 script? You must be using NNS as it's the only script I know of that disables any custom or "non-NNS" script just for the hell of it. Did I mention NNS eing a compilation of AL STOLEN CODE?


I'm not a NNS user. Most major mIRC scripts have difficulties with third party scripts loaded in.

funman wrote:Xchat, sure it's nice...but 20 day trial to windows users? I THINK NOT!


X-Chat 2.4 has a one month trial period for Windows users, and so do all newer mIRC versions. But X-Chat is still free software, while mIRC is closed source. You can use X-Chat 2.0 (which is not a trial version), or grab the source code and compile it yourself.

mIRC has had security issues in all minor versions. The only version bumps, which brought valuable new functionality, were major versions (like multiple servers in mIRC 6), because Khaled has always been busy with fixing hundrets of bugs.

funman wrote:IRSSI, meh, pure text gets bring after a while, you need some diversity.


irssi has far more features than any other client. You say it's pure text? So what is mIRC? Isn't IRC just pure text anyway? If you really got problems with terminals, then you could use the GTK version.

funman wrote:Conclusion: mIRC just served your ass.


With bugs, difficulties and security holes, yes.
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Postby funman on Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:56 am

At least mIRC doens't block your access to the program after the trial, and it's not like the keys are hard...I wrote my own generator in a mIRC script

Edited by Tim @ 1:00PM 30/12/05
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Postby mm_freak on Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:59 am

funman wrote:at least mIRC doens't block your access to the program after the trial, and it's not like the keys are hard...I wrote my own generator in a mIRC script (0wn3d!)


That just shows how much Khaled is concerned about security. He would have written a better key algorithm. There are many X-Chat builds for Windows, which don't need activation.

funman wrote:Now, go to your corner, look away and shut up because you just got served...AGAIN!


I've never offended you in any way. So don't be infantile.
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