Program to setup a webpage

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Program to setup a webpage

Postby riki102 on Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:31 pm

I'm wondering which web-page based program is the best for creating a simple
webpage which's purpose is to show the counter-strike source gaming clan.

I'm thinking about Dreamweaver and Flash. Do you guys have any better suggestions. I don't know how to start with a basic webpage.


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Postby De Kus on Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:12 pm

the best editor is always a pure text editor supporting some syntax highliting. you will need to confirm the layout on IE, Mozilla and Opera anyway.
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notepad++

Postby lyenlawner on Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:07 pm

i think you will find notepad++ more than you need, but simple enough to start with.

http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm

To start find a smple page and right click on it, select view source, with notepad++ as your defualt viewer.
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Postby thoriumbr on Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:54 am

I like Dreamweaver... It's easy to use, easy to update the pages and its template system make easy to change your entire system simply changing one file...
Or you can use VIM too... I like it too...
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Postby geeker on Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:30 am

EditPlus is a nice syntax-highlighted text editor, and it has nice project features like in Dreamweaver and other more expensive IDEs.

Notepad is probably the best to start off with, or Winsyntax... If your want to go 'hardcore', try using Pico/Nano or Emacs Very Happy
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Postby Ayukie on Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:42 am

I love my textpad ... Smile But for fast creation ... microsoft frontpage then I'll edit the rest in textpad .. Smile
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Postby funman on Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:19 pm

Notepad 4evah! Cool

I'm seriouse...I use notepad for everything, no syntax highlighting, no auto-indenting, no nothing, I do it all myself Shocked
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Postby thebeast on Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:43 pm

Talking about some text editors i can sugges my friends maded some editor basicly like some notepad but have many highlighters :-) http://gonix.ten.lt file called SEG ;-) Try it. I'm using it and like it. :-)
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Postby cynpen on Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:48 am

i like dreamweaver..
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Postby funman on Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:09 pm

well, as I said, I'm a notepad person, but I've taken to liking Notepad+ lately
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Postby nene on Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:45 pm

I use dreamweaver... The best if you ask me. You have code+design layout which is perfect...
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Postby mm_freak on Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:12 pm

You can use WYSIWYG editors like Frontpage or Dreamweaver and be ignorant for all your life. Also they aren't always WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get). Often they are optimized for Microsoft IE and that's bad.

If you want to do serious work, get a HTML source editor, one of the user-friendliest being Bluefish. Then learn how to centralize your work (one central CSS file instead of inline stylesheets in the HTML files themselves, and also one or a few central JavaScript files, if needed).

A side note: if you ever want to write documentations or tutorials, texinfo comes in handy. Texinfo is a markup language designed to be translated into other markup langauges. Create one texinfo file and translate it into a set of HTMLs, plaintext, DVI or even PDF. However, under Windows you would need cygwin for that.

Personally I use Emacs for almost anything related to text (coding, scripting, documenting, ...). It's really good.

geeker wrote:If your want to go 'hardcore', try using Pico/Nano or Emacs :-D


That's a very common prejudice. Pico and Nano are like Notepad in every way, with the only exception that they have other means of cutting/pasting text, and they have keyboard shortcuts rather than menus. But that's no problem for beginners as the most important shortcuts are listed at the bottom of the editor. Keyboard shortcuts are more handy anyway or do you still save files via menus? ;)

Emacs is not 'hardcore', it's just different. I've learned using it within two hours and it was worthy. It's really handy. It has advanced, customizable syntax highlighting, fully customizable indenting, fully customizable justification (even things like block justification in plain-text files), project management and a lot more.
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Re: notepad++

Postby goose on Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:40 pm

lyenlawner wrote:i think you will find notepad++ more than you need, but simple enough to start with.

http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm

To start find a smple page and right click on it, select view source, with notepad++ as your defualt viewer.


I've contributed to this project in the past. It continues to develope rather nicely. I wish the core programmer knew a little more scuntilla. (Scuntilla is the folding text engine that powers notepad++) The guy is real nice, even though he's a Frenchie. Smile
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Postby goose on Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:43 pm

Ayukie wrote:I love my textpad ... Smile But for fast creation ... microsoft frontpage then I'll edit the rest in textpad .. Smile


Microsoft frontpage will lead you into the direction of WebDav publishing which I'm not a big fan of. Currently alot of the exploits floating around and nailing servers are WebDAV overflows like SEARCH or LOCK. It's getting annoying to administrate some of those machines.
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Postby bart416 on Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:07 pm

geeker wrote:EditPlus is a nice syntax-highlighted text editor, and it has nice project features like in Dreamweaver and other more expensive IDEs.

Notepad is probably the best to start off with, or Winsyntax... If your want to go 'hardcore', try using Pico/Nano or Emacs Very Happy

I always used programmers notepad because of the usage of tabs.
Atleast on windows i use it.
On linux i grab back to gedit. Pure and simple Smile

Dreamweaver actualy got bad in the last editions.
I have used the trials of all of them and non of them satisfied my needs.
So i went back to my notepad variants Smile
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